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  1. BrianD says:

    I found a couple of other links that may be of interest.

    The first is about a Missouri pastor who has left the Christian faith. Judge for yourself…

    https://metrovoicenews.com/fallen-kansas-city-area-pastor-leaves-wife-family-and-the-faith/

    The second is about some megachurches spinning off their ‘campus’ branches into autonomous churches.

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/multisite-churches-now-autonomous-congregations.html

  2. Em says:

    Reading BrianD’s add on…. Sermons have their place, no doubt. BUt….
    I think students need mentoring that listens to their conflicted deductions, mentoring that affirms and encourages and is competent to discuss

  3. Michael says:

    That guy that “left the faith”…I watched his act unfold on Twitter and he’s just a lying piece of crap looking for new people to scam.

  4. Xenia says:

    While I was in Michigan last week I visited my son’s megachurch Sunday morning. Here’s what I observed:

    – The worship team was very skillful. The smoke machine and light show were fascinating. The lyrics were all God-centered. What got to me was the enthusiasm the youngish congregation was displaying. I don’t know about you all, but I was thrilled (teary-eyed, in fact) to see so many young people unabashedly adoring our Lord.

    – The program for the morning was a once-a-year Q and A session where people could text the pastor a question. The topic was family and relationships. This pastor was not the Hawaiian-shirt/tattooed/ drug-surf slanging cooler-than-cool anti-intellectual I was fearing. He gave extremely thoughtful biblical and historic Christian answers to the kinds of questions young people want answers to. His answers were reasonable and not compromising, yet not hysterical. No shouting, no exaggerations, just an encouragement for Christians to stay the course, no matter what is happening in the world.

    -In fact, “stay the course” seemed to be the theme of the morning. The word “kindness” was used a lot and from my observations, “kindness” is a valued virtue at this church. Politics was not mentioned.

    – Mother’s Day was mentioned. Get this: He mentioned how in the past the church gave out roses, candy, etc to the moms. This year they decided to donate $10,000 to a shelter (for families in distress, I think?) run by Christians. That was another occasion for your Xenia to shed a few happy tears.

    -Afterwards, my son introduced me to the pastor who told me what a great job I did raising a great son. He seemed willing to chat for quite some time but we had a Mother’s Day meal to get ourselves off to so we only talked for about 15 minutes.

    -SO, to summarize, this mega-church seems focused on Christ and seems intent on practicing kindness. I didn’t see a smidgen of compromise in the area of morality. I was happy to have visited these fine Christian people and I am more than happy my son and his wife have found a home there.

    ( I have serious theological disagreements with Protestantism, especially Evangelicalism that can never be reconciled, that’s a given.)

  5. Michael says:

    Xenia,
    Well reported.
    I think there are probably more evangelical churches than we acknowledge who are doing well…

  6. Babylon's Dread says:

    I was determined to express nothing but sorrow over Rachel. It is not an easy path when you diverge so profoundly from someone. Kudos to CT for their straight-forward admission of careless expression.

  7. Babylon's Dread says:

    If you ever were a SBC pastor and did not feel at least a twinge of something painful in the communication powers and skill of Beth Moore then you are a saint. The woman is fire and poetry. She is grace and power. She is altogether compelling and glorious. Her gifts will not be denied. So Baptists cannot deny her a place. This daughter prophesies with the Criswells, the Rogers and the R G Lees. Her gift has already found a place. I always understood the scriptural misgivings of the brethren but like Miss Bertha Smith to deny her a place is to deny the very breath of God among us.

    Beth already won. I hope she stays in the family that birthed her.

  8. The Thanos article of course speaks to Theodicy, and an angry, vengeful petulant God which anti-christians accuse. That nasty “old testament God” as the anti-theists like to construct. There’s a lot to chew on there.

    Personally, given the complexity of life on this planet, even in the most inhospitable environments like the deep sea floors, not to mention the incomprehensible vastness of the observable universe, I’ll default to God, and thank Him for sending his Son to sacrifice Himself to redeem us.

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