Why Bob Coy Can Come Back

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  1. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    This seems simple from this point on. There should be no more articles about the wickedness of Bob Coy – those stories have already been written and catalogued.

    From this point on, the articles should be written about the idolators when attend his congregation – which would be 100% of them.

    They are the one’s who need to be called out.

  2. Michael says:

    MLD,

    That’s pretty much where I’m at at this point.

  3. Xenia says:

    Are people being told all the accusations are lies? Fake News, they believe?

    Are people relying on Cheap Grace (It was all covered by the Blood.)

    Do they imagine he is repentant?

    Do they think his “excellent teaching” outweighs his moral degeneracy?

    Are people so enthralled by celebrity that they are blind? (Coy’s only a celebrity in a very small corner of the Christian world.)

    Are they simply gawkers?

    Are there no other preachers in S. Florida that they must provide an audience for this guy?

    I don’t get it.

  4. Xenia says:

    This reminds me of a story I’ve told here before, when I was the director of a home school groups and was planning the annual family camp. One member wanted to bring her relative, a former pastor, who was just out of jail for molesting a 5-year old boy. She kept telling me that God has forgiven him and so should I. We argued quite a bit about this. She brought the pervert. He spent the whole time down at the creek with the little boys in swim suits.

    She said he repented of his sins. If he had repented, why did he plead Not Guilty? Well, we wouldn’t want him to go to jail since God has forgiven him.

  5. Steve says:

    MLD let’s see how this plays out. Maybe CCA will forgive Bob and admit him back into their elite celebrity pastor club. There is nothing more Chuck Smith like than that kind of second chance.

  6. Michael says:

    Xenia,
    All of the above…celebrity is as much a drug for the celebrants as the celebrity…

  7. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Steve – and? So CCA says he is forgiven – so? Even I said on the other Coy thread that he is forgiven (which of our sins did Jesus not die for?)
    All the people who will populate hell will be forgiven sinners – so obviously forgiveness is not the question here.
    If you by some strange occurrence ended up at Coy’s church, is that on Coy or you?

  8. Michael says:

    Sigh…
    Let me repeat myself.
    This has little or nothing to do with any of the fragments of what’s left of Calvary Chapel.
    CC and Coy are both tainted brands and don’t need or want each other.
    The CCA doesn’t want or need the uproar that would come with his affiliation.

  9. Duane Arnold says:

    I’m sorry, but I think a really basic mistake is being made, similar to the thread on Linkathon and the observations by the InternetMonk. I’ll take it further still… I think Michael made a mistake in placing this in the category of “Church Issues”.

    This has nothing to do with anything that one can even vaguely refer to as “Church”.

    Yes, it is a gathering of people. Yes, there’s a guy up in front holding a Bible. Does that make it “Church” that is in any way recognizable from descriptions that we have from the first through fifth centuries? Is it in any way recognizable from what we see in the Pauline corpus? Does it bear the marks of what we call “Church” – one, holy, catholic and apostolic? We are talking about something that is vaguely “religious”, headed by a minor celebrity who can, apparently, entertain a crowd, but we are not talking about “Church”.

    Maybe we should put this alongside the reviews of Captain America, where we can comment on the skill of the actors, the quality of the production and who’s doing what with whom from the pages of People magazine.

    Call it what you will, but not “Church”….

  10. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I agree with Duane and I thought I was making that point on the other thread when I said I had no compassion for anyone who does business with him – and that business would include a church type venture.

    I don’t think we need to go any further than to classify him with Elmer Gantry (fictional) or Marjoe Gortner.

  11. UnCCed says:

    Darn!!!! Didn’t see this threat till posted on the last one.
    Ok, I’ve copied my question here.

    During one of my CC “trainings” it was explained to start in religious nonprofit in the US, you must state your religious ordination (for brevity’s sake, leaving out the christianeeze).
    I think that’s partially untrue in that you can theoretically start your own denom or 5013c without affiliation with anyone, but that’s longer and requires more $.
    Anyway, since Bob was ordained and later use that to register with FL for tax purposes, won’t he reuse it for the same reasons?
    If so, doesn’t that make whichever CC side for oversight in FL culpable?
    In other words, unless he got his own corp in FL, won’t he HAVE TO technically be a CC?
    You see where I’m going.

    (new addition)
    With a police report-publicly available, if Bob allegedly does something else allegedly (yes, I’m being careful), won’t THAT finally pierce the liability-veil of the sacred affiliation where everyone acts like the three monkeys (don’t see/hear/speak)?

    thx.

  12. Michael says:

    Sigh twice…

    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CALVARY CHAPEL!!!!

    Coy filed for a completely separate non profit and there was no affiliation mentioned with any organization.

    I just filed for non profit status for all my ministries yesterday…it is a new short form and the cost is half of what it used to be.
    I did not affiliate with any other ecclesiastical group.

    This whole mess now has nothing to do with either side of CC…it has everything to do with Bob Coy.

  13. UnCCed says:

    Oh, nevermind, there’s never been any admission of guilt.
    Also, I’m cobbling together my half-baked legal knowledge from tv/movies.
    However, at least my motive is pure. I mean, if the Holy Spirit is greived by us, He must vommit when, in His name a child is brutalized – physically and emotionally.
    At this point, since the RC and large portions of the us protestants have ignored the duty of protecting them, I’d be open for ANYTHING to try, including stripping all churches of the nonprofit status – it wasn’t given for the purposes its used for today’s anyway (those of who involved in actually helping the needy and poor are excluded from my comment).

  14. Michael says:

    Whether or not these are real churches is a morass for another time…

  15. UnCCed says:

    Michael,
    Sorry, I never understood the process.

    To whomever was talking about shaming attendees.
    There’s another option.
    In my world, which I won’t describe except the vague reference to make a point here, I can assure you there are forces which would make handy work out of Bob’s “ministry” and all records its storing ($-backers), they could feel the pain as well.
    Anonymous is but one group.
    I’m actually surprised with the well-reported examples (some hide what was behind it) of obvious reprisals, more religious orgs haven’t been punished.
    Trust me, these groups don’t give two hoots about the Dove nor will “pray about it” before devastating anything $.
    Several of our own gov agencies, many large Corps, and others have felt their wrath.

  16. Michael says:

    Anonymous went after one CC pastor and threatened me about 2003…nothing came of it.

  17. Papias says:

    “They will embrace and protect him as if it were the Second Coming of Christ Himself, because they are too ignorant to discern the difference between their idol and the Lord.”

    Michael – you hit the nail on the head with that comment.

    I guess i would question who the “they” are/is in this scene? Anyone who would embrace Coy at this point may not be “CC”, but they would be “CC friendly” or “CC familiar”. He does not have to be affiliated with CC to pull a bunch of money from that pot o’ gold.

    Where else is he going to get his funding/audience from? Where else do these backers come from? Does he have a brand in South Florida that transcends into a wider evangelical circle? If so, why did he work in a nightclub and not transition to another church staff position?

    And yeah, I see him pop up on my FB friends request list…no thanks.

  18. Michael says:

    Papias,

    Coy is a brand unto himself.
    He didn’t go back into ministry because some blogger has kept the heat on every time he thought about starting again…that is no longer enough of an impediment…

  19. Steve says:

    MLD, I know it’s all idolatry but not all the congregants read this blog or are aware of all the circumstances. CCA has a role in this since they probably knew stuff long before it became public. Yeah they dropped him but my recollection is they didn’t say much. When I am talking about forgiveness, I’m not talking about God’s forgiveness but rather the organization restoring one to fellowship and maybe even leadership. David Hocking ring a bell?

  20. Michael says:

    Steve,

    It’s not going to happen.

  21. Em says:

    Haven’t completed reading this thread, but it seems MLD is on target.
    Can’t recall the O. T. reference, but it declares don’t “refirm” a murderer… I think i got kicked put of Bible Study Fellowship because i argued that reforming and forgiving were not interchangeable terms… actually, it probably was because i think R.B. Thieme was a valid Bible teacher 😏

  22. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Steve, since 99.9999999999999999% of the population do not read this blog, I would expect folks to get the info by other means. In the past 15 years (Google time) have you ever gone to a church without first Googling bot the church and pastor to see what’s up? I am sure if a newby pewster were to google some new start up church, much about Bob Coy would pop up. Hey, perhaps it shouldn’t be, but it is a buyer beware world.

    Hey, if a friend tells me he is going to a new church, I google to see if he is making a misstep.

  23. Duane Arnold says:

    All

    Sorry for my comment above, it was out of line. I could edit it out, but I prefer my mistakes in judgement to be there as a reminder.

    After spending part of the morning talking to a so-called “church consultant”, I’m a bit beyond grumpy. It seems as though all you need to do today is to come up with clever alliteration – encounter, embody, extend – and hang whatever you want to on to the words. It seems that it is no longer about “church”, it’s about marketing. What’s worse is that someone like Coy may find takers for his “services” on that basis.

    Again, my apologies…

  24. Michael says:

    Duane,
    It’s all good…

  25. Duane Arnold says:

    Michael

    Many thanks… I hoped you would understand…

  26. Steve says:

    Michael,. What’s not going to happen? Coy may make a strong comeback. It’s all about the numbers. If Coy became super famous and actually appear to repent and gets a huge following bigger and better than before, I’m sure CC would welcome him with open arms.

  27. Michael says:

    Steve,
    There are numerous dynamics at work in this and while nothing is impossible, this is close enough.
    It has nothing to do with numbers…

  28. Jerod says:

    It’s a real broad brush stroke to call it all idolatry in the pews. Some are ignorant, some have baggage of their own that wants to see Coy get a fourth fifth sixth chance. Etc. It doesn’t negate the fact that some little turtles at the bottom of the stack need to belch their disapproval.

  29. Steve says:

    Michael,. I’m more cynical then you.

  30. Michael says:

    If you support Coy in light of what is known about his character, you are either an idolater or cognitively challenged. Period

  31. Jerod says:

    Duane
    Your last comment was strangely in concert with what I was talking about with the Spencer article.
    🙂

  32. Jerod says:

    Michael,

    Yeah, well, grace is ugly, isn’t it…?

  33. Jerod says:

    I don’t support Coy, for clarity. That guy needs to be fine and making me a pretty little drink

  34. Michael says:

    Jerod,
    Grace for who?
    Bob or the trail of victims?

  35. Jerod says:

    The Christians that support him! The dinguses that will seek his advice or listen to his motivational speeches.

  36. Jerod says:

    Done… Not fine! Silly predictive text, geez

  37. Michael says:

    Those who support him are complicit in his evil and the denial of justice to those he harmed. It’s way past time that we made people responsible for the sin they perpetuate.

  38. Anne says:

    “Those who support him are complicit in his evil and the denial of justice to those he harmed. It’s way past time that we made people responsible for the sin they perpetuate.“
    Powerful statement, Michael. Application beyond the scoundrel Coy.
    Pierced my heart, as the migrant/refugee situation at our border and beyond continues to keep me up each night.

  39. Michael says:

    Anne,
    I don’t know if you’re on the Frontera list…if you are you have good reason to be up nights.
    I’m at a loss where to even start on that subject…

  40. Corby says:

    Duane @ 1:15 – I would love to see a post about your experience with the consultant. What you said further validates what I’ve been saying and seeing and contributes to my cynicism about both church leadership training and the growth of consumer Christianity. Trying to find Christians that don’t look for the things you mentioned is very difficult. It’s a vicious circle that is rotting the church both from the inside out and outside in. Nothing new, but to me too many deny that they participate in it while participating in it.

  41. Jerod says:

    Start at funding beds

  42. Jessica says:

    If I misunderstand plz correct me, that this is not a CCftl problem anymore. I do not agree. Here is why, CalvaryChapelAbuse.com had been posting for years the moral failing of Coy. Including paying off families to move out of S Florida that Coy had affairs w married women, to they were forced to put his sister in law as his secretary in Ft Lauderdale to keep taps on him and try to stop his serial adultery. Obviously this didn’t work. Then we rumors came out that the women in the April 2014 relationship actually went to powers to be (Board) at CCftl and outed Coy. However they did nothing. So this women went to a affiliated pastor who speaks as a guest at CCftl and had a parenting program on reach FM. This women asked him for help, and he went to the Board of Directors and gave them an ultimatum to call Coy our on the carpet or he will. And the Board’s arm was bent forcing them to be removed. It makes sense bc the next week Chet Lowe spent the entire service discussing this w the church by stating Our pastor has “multiple affairs” which was new and different than the press release (see how they let it out a little at a time) , AND thank God for the Nathan that called him out. Fast forward to November 2017 when the New Times came out w the molestation. Calvary FtL said these allegations happen after he was removed and we pray for all involved any questions go ask Bob. Lol BUT the church CCftl keeps Coy around sprinkling his name here and there as the founder etc. Basically they dressed him up in his 300 shirts and jeans, white teeth and covered all his evilness to make money. I bet you this is a “grooming” of the community and eventually Coy and Ccftl will reconcile may be years frm now, may happen through a Coy family member but Coy is not staying in S Florida for nothing. They say once you smell a rotten dead rat, you will never forget that smell. It’s a rat and it’s rotten.

  43. Steve says:

    I don’t support Coy but the “Moses model” may become the “king David” model. David did worse then Coy and after being confronted by Nathan and repenting, he was called a man after God’s own heart.

  44. directambiguity says:

    I wonder if the SBC would take him? Kind of follow in Greg Laurie’s steps.

  45. Michael says:

    None of the CC churches in S. Florida want Coy to come back, including CCFTL.
    The reason?
    Everyone he starts with will be transfer growth from their churches…and most of the growth thereafter.

  46. Michael says:

    There are no legitimate parallels between the chosen king of a theodicy and a weasel who can’t keep his pants on.

  47. Michael says:

    Coy does have friends in the SBC down there…but I seriously doubt that they would embrace him in the current climate they work in…

  48. Jessica says:

    Steve, I wonder why it took an outside pastor to bend the strong arm of CCftl to call Coy to the carpet? You know how much distress this caused on the community? First shock, then sadness, then we wanted to rally and support the church/pastors and staff. But little by little the pieces didn’t add up. And that’s when anger set in. We feel used and suddenly even the Frappuccino’s at the Grille seemed like we were being sold and marketed. I stopped attending regularly months before his departure bc Coy never ever preached about family or marriage. Now know why. The fall of the mega church that needed an outsider to make Coy accountable. I wonder why no one else inside could. But like Michael’s blog states, they hid counting their silver pieces.

  49. Steve says:

    There are no legitimate parallels between the chosen king of a theodicy and a weasel who can’t keep his pants on.
    ——————————————————————————————————————-
    For starters, King David was not only sexually abusive and an adulterer but a liar and a murderer. But I agree, not a good parallel for the church just as Moses was not a good parallel for the pastor. But for some weird reason, I think Coy may get everything back plus some.

    Maybe a better modern day example would be Trump. No one thought he could win the presidency. The timing is kind of ironic with Trump kicking off his own re-election campaign in the sunny state of Florida.

  50. Jim says:

    This development is very disturbing to me. I had hoped that Bob’s memory would just fade away and healing would continue for those hurt…

    I have some questions out of curiosity, if anyone can answer: 1) Did Bob reconcile with his wife? 2) Is he with his family at this time? 3) Are any other pastors supporting him or claiming they have reformed him, or is he just a lone wolf doing this?

  51. Michael says:

    Jim,

    1. No
    2. No
    3. Not publicly…but there are some…

  52. Julie Anne says:

    Damn. Can I say that word here? The day I post about Tullian Tchividjian making a comeback, you are posting this. Gag! When will it ever end? WARNING: Tullian Tchividjian Attempts a Ministry Comeback by Faking True Restoration and Repentance with His Victims; AND He’s Starting a New Church???

  53. Jim says:

    Thanks Michael.

  54. Josh says:

    “I wonder if the SBC would take him?”

    Nope.

  55. Will Whosoever says:

    This is a man who was used by God at one time to lead many to faith.

    Then, after many years, he did some of the most heinous and ugly things with his body with a young, attractive new believer … just mere steps from and moments before entering the pulpit to preach the Word of a holy, righteous God.

    While his worship team led the congregation in worship, he was using an gratifying himself sexually in his office.

    I can not wrap my mind around this development. If I were Bob Coy, I would be about as afraid to to touch the Word of God about as much as an O.T. Jew would casually walk up and touch the Ark of the Covenant.

    It comforts me to know that God sees and knows everything. He will handle this either now…or later. Take your pick.

  56. filbertz says:

    I think the trait that will dog the reputation/legacy of Evangelicalism in future generations is a lack of critical thinking. Unprincipled thoughts, actions, and decisions give us blight like Coy.

  57. Jerod says:

    This thread needs some levity.

    Lenny Dykstra lost his dentures.
    “So began what [Lenny] Dykstra says was ultimately a nine-hour Dumpster dive that he tweeted about. He enlisted a friend, tag-team wrestler Sprinkles the Clown, to help.”

  58. Jessica says:

    Will-whosoever, so Coy actually was to that point? Minutes before stepping out to preach? I heard years ago that the church paid off a family to move out of S Florida bc he had a thing w a married women. I know he had his ribs broke in a classroom by a disgruntled husband. Needed a bodyguard after that. So how many more stories are out there? Why no one stopped him. He used to complain on the pulpit that people “judged” him bc he was having lunch w his niece. Told the congregation don’t jump to conclusions. It is apparent he knew and planned this behavior. What a jerk.

  59. Mary says:

    What does SBC stand for?

  60. justMike says:

    Slowly Becoming Catholic. 😉

  61. Michael says:

    SBC- Southern Baptist Convention…

  62. Michael says:

    “Then, after many years, he did some of the most heinous and ugly things with his body with a young, attractive new believer … just mere steps from and moments before entering the pulpit to preach the Word of a holy, righteous God.”

    The story of what happened to that new believer has yet to be told…

  63. Mary says:

    justMike 😉

    Will Whosoever — I can’t wrap my brain around this new news either.

    Back in 2017 when the New Times published the story about the police report, keep in mind that the New Times is a Miami publication (I believe) and also a smaller news source.

    Miami (Dade County) is the county south of Fort Lauderdale (Broward County).

    For some reason, Broward County’s newspaper called the SunSentinel, didn’t publish the story nor did the Miami Herald. (To the best of my recollection).

    This 2017 police report story was now 3 years after Coy’s 2014 fall from ministry. Most people were getting on with their lives and unless you googled his name, one was unaware of this latest development.

    I can only speculate as Michael stated in his post that there must be some politics of evangelism here in S. Florida.

  64. Jessica says:

    Unfortunately having experience w rape victims, statistics are 1 in 5women are sexually assaulted. Would not surprise me if “the young, attractive, new believer” was not consensual. Just a feeling I have bc I have heard of very distraught women being taken advantage by Coy. Rape survivors do not come forward immediately they need to heal, feel safe before they are strong enough to go to police. And who would believe her “if my assumption” is true? The Sun Sentinel refused to even write about the allegations of molestation, even w a police report. If you would have a police report that you molested a child on record, nothing else would surprise me. But hoping the truth would come out.

  65. Will Whosoever says:

    I sincerely apologize for my graphic post, but his sin is so radical and it altered that make up artist’s life. That’s just one life ruined…

    How can we possibly quantify the damage to those who simply walked away from Jesus quietly when the news broke out? Just discussing it here furthers the pain and conflict.

    To much is given, much is required…and yet my own sin haunts me and I know by the grace of God there go I… I wish I had the power of Elizabeth Montgomery and that I could just ‘wiggle my nose’ and I could make him and the aftermath all go away…

  66. Will Whosoever says:

    Jessica, from what I know, sadly, it was mutually consensual.

  67. Michael says:

    Will,

    What do you know about the make up artist and the aftermath of this?
    You can email me privately if you prefer… phoenixpreacher@gmail.com

  68. Maria Marua says:

    If he has repented and is back in good standards with God, good for him. As Christians, we must forgive as God forgave us, BUT, that doesn’t mean it is ok to accept everything else. Voy should NOT come back as a pastor , NO WAY NO HOW. I have been going to Calvary for over 20 years, and yes he was missed at the beginning, but as a person, not as a Pastor. He should stay where he is wherever that is and continue to pray and continue to repent.

  69. Mary says:

    I stand corrected. I googled Bob Coy’s name and The Miami Herald did indeed post an article about the police report. Article dated November 14, 2017.

    As Jessica stated, The Sun Sentinel chose not to expose this story…

    Ugh, this Coy story makes me sick.

  70. Jessica says:

    A makeup artist for a pastor? I think that just sums the whole thing up. The next church we decide to go to, gonna ask does the pastor have his own makeup artist? If so I am out of there.

  71. Jerod says:

    Just a bunch but maybe folks should probably stop mentioning the vic’s role and situation… easy to figure out …

  72. Jerod says:

    Might be worth a deletion

  73. Jessica says:

    Jarod I didn’t know, I heard rumors bu. And no we don’t need to know the “details” but as far as victims I have stayed strong that a child is a victim, a under age girl is a victim and rape survivor is a victim all in a court of law. If he had a thing w a makeup artist it’s consensual and not a victim. And then it is a lesson for us all about idolizing a person. To add to that it was Bob Barnes who stated over and over in sermons that he had to “clear” the 2 front ties of Ccftl every time he visited bc of “groupies” of Coys. If all this is true, it should not be deleted. It should be exposed as what it is covered up idolatry.

  74. TJ says:

    You, the writers of the darkness of Bob Coy, are you without sinful/criminal thoughts or events. I think not. You rightoeus writers who batter and continue to batter Bob Coy, believe you are doing right. Long necked aren’t you. Of course when a burden arises so many psychologically imbalanced people come out of the woodwork and point fingers. When one false exclamation is directed it remains in the minds and internet as truth.
    The only Truth is our Lord and He is Loving and all is between Him ABBA and Bob Coy.

  75. CM says:

    TJ,

    You are sadly deluded and following a wolf that has been outed.

    Please stop drinking the Kool Aid.

    Either that or should we ask how much does Bob Coy pay you?

  76. Dan from Georgia says:

    How does a Swedish pop band figure into all this?

  77. Kevin H says:

    Maybe because Bob Coy is the Dancing Queen? Dunno? 🙂

  78. Diana Horgan says:

    You’re comment: “They will embrace and protect him as if it were the Second Coming of Christ Himself, because they are too ignorant to discern the difference between their idol and the Lord.”
    Have you ever attended Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? Pastor Bob Coy was never an idol to me or to thousands of others. He taught from the Bible every Wednesday and every weekend. Are you serious about what you said above? Pastor Bob would always say to give glory to the Lord only and that he just teaches the word of God. If anyone chose to idolize him, that was their choice. I am overwhelmed and shocked by everything that I’m reading online about Pastor Bob Coy. We are all sinners and we all fall short of the glory of God. The devil comes to kill steal and destroy lives. Satan comes like a roaring lion trying to devour its prey( Jesus followers). He hates God and tries to destroy God’s children. We are living in the end times and I personally know that the attacks are more and more to all born again Christians that I know… including Pastor Bob. He really loved the Lord and always wanted to obey God. People are trying to destroy all that he has done for the glory of God. No one should take that away from him. When he got caught up in sinful behavior, I believe that it was from the pit of hell that he slowly fell away from Jesus… I hope and pray that only the truth will be spoken or written and nothing else. So again, he was a great pastor and teacher. Please don’t take that away from him because that is true. He never wanted to be idolized. What people choose to do has nothing to do with Pastor Bob. We all need prayer and so does he. Jesus says to love one another but what I see is not love. It’s people saying bad things about others- Sadly people don’t want to hear about good things but only the bad. This world is getting worse and worse and we all need Jesus. Praise his holy name. Amen.

  79. I personally know the girl he abused. Mike Rozell Of Potter’s Field tried to cover it up while I was interning there. Bob is a wicked wicked man.

  80. Jeffrey Glasser says:

    “Let him without sin.cast the first stone!”
    Who are you to be so unforgiving .
    Do you not have Christ in your heart.
    I am a god fearing believer.with Jesus as my savior. Have you ever met.bob coy?
    Have you ever had a simple conversation with the man. Or walked a mile in his shoes.
    I find it is very easy to be negative or condisending. From afar . I have seen way to many casual christians point a finger at someone.remember that when you do this there’s 4 pointing back at you.

    But i met the man..talked with him.
    I suggest that you do the same .
    Then I am positive you would .
    just pray for the man.
    I have personally have talked with the man.
    He Has The demenor. And the humbleness.
    That only comes from having.Christ in your heart.and God in your life.
    So i say before you pick up that stone.again
    Let him without sin.cast the first stone!

    My name is jeff.glasser .
    People it.easy.to.point a finger and be a follower. What I suggest is you fall to your. Knees.face down
    And ask Christ into your heart .
    Pray for people . Do you not know that.the enemy ls a roaring lion looking to seek and destroy. The children of God. .so as i have said .
    I will pray that .God softens your .hard hearts.
    Your’s sincerely ; a servant in Christ.
    … jeffrey Glasser

  81. Jeffrey Glasser says:

    Also calvary chapel of.ft.laud has and has had a strict policy that the pastor’s and.I mean.all pastors and asst. Have another present. When dealing with the body of.Christ. when.it comes to the pastor .there is three (3) count them .3.
    With him all the time. during sermons , before and, after.this is fact not myth or.hear.say. but hard fact. By the way I was at cavalry chapel . When there.were 15 people at the funeral home I watch it move behind Albertson on commercial blvd. Where a Godly man .would preach the word of God to over flowing believers. I was there when it moved to a commercial warehouse in pompano. Where at
    That location a man of God would preach .
    Three times on Sunday 6 ..8.. 11 am- twice on wed. And 7 pm on Saturday evening .I watched that man of God evangelize till he had holes in his.shoe’s .he drove not a new.car but a beater box ,for those.who do not know what that means beat up and runned down .not a new cadillac or a Mercedes or Rolls-Royce. Like some of these pastors do. If i was a finger pointer.well let’s not do that .
    that is how we got here
    He lived in the same house
    Well i watched it grow and grow and grow. With God blessings so much .they out grow the place
    That was to last as the permanent home .i saw them pay the buildings off completely .
    God was truly blessing this.man of.God .
    I watched God bless cavalry with 75 acres w/5 buildings on it was a very large computer company complex it had 20,000 employees
    Let me show you a Godly man .or at least the heart of a Godly man I was there .when the news.came in

    That the chairman of harris.computer’s had made a challenge of faith he was a member of cavalry chapel ft.lauderdale
    He said that.god. had put it upon his heart to offer harris company complex to the.church for
    $25,000000 (twenty. -five million dollars ).wow .and he would give c.c.ftl. $5,000000. Towards the purchase. I was there when. Bob Coy hot on the ground prostrated on his face .face down and ask the Lord ..If.this.was of.him and for the Lords glory that would. He.please
    Make a way. Well praise God. Out of the blue we were offered a very large endowment from a Christian organization well in a short span needless to say between the endowment and the chairman of harris.computer’s offer cavalry chapel. Ft.lauderdale only had to.come up with.7,000000 that’s seven million well with the.sell of the properties of the.current church that they were at. Cavalry had to come up with somewhere. Around $2,000000 or.so. so for tje.first time. Cavalry chapel ft.lauderdale was ask to.take up a offering .you see cc ftl. Does not take an offer up at any time because Bob coy had faith in what God had told him so if uou.wanted to tithe ther.were boxes in the back for tithing.
    Matter fact one of.the members that owned Kentucky fried chicken donated a.bunch of.buckets well.needless to say the bank made the loan and God blessed again . So please just
    Have a .Godly HEART AND PRAY For Bob coy not comdination yes i know bob.coy and I.was .around him a lot so please think and prey before you speak.
    ..

  82. Michael says:

    Mr. Glasser,

    Bob Coy is an evil man by any measure of the word.

  83. Lovie says:

    It’s been over 5 years. Why not hear the man out? There are plenty of pastors who came back sooner after doing much worse. If he has repented and wants to launch a new ministry (minus the snarky quotation marks), what’s the problem?

    It must be nice to be perfect like you are.

  84. Michael says:

    Lovie,

    Unfortunately, the public is unaware of how bad a man Bob Coy is.
    I am nowhere near perfect,but I have not been accused of child molestation and serial adultry.

  85. Lovie says:

    So accusations are proof of guilt now? I pray that you are never accused of guilt, because I don’t want you to be denied the due process that you are withholding from Mr. Coy. There wasn’t a trial, nor was he ever convicted of child molestation.

    And I don’t recall the details of his “moral failings” ever being disclosed to the public. If they have been, please provide a link and I will read it. Adultery is not beyond Gods’s ability to forgive. Especially, if Mr. Coy has truly repented. Like I said, it’s been five years. I’m willing to hear the man out. God gave him the gift of teaching and preaching. If Mr. Coy has truly repented, why not let him use that gift to lead to people Christ?

    At the end of my previous message I said…. “It must be nice to be perfect like you are.” That was snarky and I’m sorry. I should have left that out, but I was irritated.

  86. Michael says:

    Lovie,
    Be irritated, I don’t care.
    I’ve had to live with the whole story of what Bob Coy has done for years…years of sleepless nights, anxiety, and grief over his victims.
    If he ever tries to come back I’ll tell their stories…and you will understand.

  87. Jessica says:

    I know a lot of people who ran in Coy’s circle. Back in the day he was hanging around members in Turnberry Isle on yachts. I personally have been turned around and marched away from Coy on early morning Sundays before service while volunteering, which then I thought was strange. Looking back he was never alone to actually try and control his behavior and serial adultery. they even put a family member of Coys as his secretary to try and keep him in line and watch him. There were 2 Coys, on stage Coy and the real Coy. Would not surprise me if his name pops up in Epstein’s little black book. For all you here in disbelief on these accusations/police report and stating it’s been 5 years, I urge you to read the news of today about child predators evil times we live in. Coy should never be in ministry or near kids again.

  88. Dan Kitinoja says:

    Has this happened yet? Is it in the works?

  89. Dorothy says:

    I am not concerned about his moral problems. Pastor Coy has excellent teaching qualities. He brought back my interest in learning. I miss his lectures etc.

  90. Josh says:

    Did he ever teach about the qualifications of being a Pastor?

  91. McGarrett says:

    Dorothy and Lovie,

    Excuse my terms, but you are blind, enthralled with yet another celebrity pastor, and frankly, clueless.

  92. Xenia says:

    I think some of these women who are defending this guy have crushes on him.

  93. MM says:

    Jeffery Glasser

    As I read your post about Coy one thing kept coming up in almost every one of your sentences, blessings.

    For some reason your whole post seems to equate “blessings” with being godly. The truth is, and it’s in the bible, material blessings do not equal a relationship with God. One can fall on their face and “call on the name of the lord” and yet be very far from Him.

    Please read the book of Habakkuk where the prophet asks the question about the wicked and their prosperity. God’s response is interesting and please consider how that might compare to men like Coy who use the name of the Lord in vain.

  94. MichaelM says:

    Bob is still living in Florida, in Miracle Mile DFB, he goes to Church he will always love the Lord, Hes a sinner saved by Grace, and the stories of him with a child are false and a lie, and If any of you out there are without sin, then cast that first stone, If not shut up and listen for Gods voice, because your not going to hear him when he calls you or not.

  95. Michael says:

    MichaelM, you shut your ignorant, idolatrous mouth, imbecile. How’s that work for you?

  96. MichaelM says:

    Matthew 7 Do Not Judge
    7 “Judge[a] not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what [b]judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. YOU ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES BURN IN HELL

  97. MichaelM says:

    1. Gossip is divisive. 2. Gossip is poisonous. 3. Gossip is foolish. 4. Gossip is not in God’s plan Gossip divides relationships, destroys trust, and the pain associated with gossip is felt long after the words are spoken. And Thats All Your Doing Here Michael

  98. Michael says:

    12For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

  99. Michael says:

    I have the documents that make it clear that this is not gossip. Go worship your adulterer.

  100. MichaelM says:

    Michael Newnham, AKA the “Phoenix Preacher”, has repeatedly made unfounded accusations against the Calvary Chapel Association -Propaganda of the Phoenix Preacher- Sorry You were someones Bitch when you were in Jail in Iran-YOU ARE DEMONIC AND NOBODY SHOULD EVER POST HERE AGAIN-ALL LIES

  101. Michael says:

    I will say it’s been a while since I was condemned to the pit…I must be doing something right….

  102. Michael says:

    I’ve never been in prison. I’ve never been to Iran. I have on of the top Christian websites in the world. You may need medication.

  103. Michael says:

    Do you repent of your lies? Do you know where you live? Hopefully there is a caregiver close by…

  104. MichaelM says:

    I only worship The lord in the name of Yeshua the Mashiach I cant believe with your tone that what spews out of your mouth comes from God, The Joy of the Lord Is my strength, and you seem to have no Joy, If what I dug up about you is wrong and incorrect, imagine what may be wrong about others you dug up? If we love the same God, I dont see the evidence here, I went CCFTL since 1993, and Bob Coy to me is a mere man, who has his faults and sins, as you and I do too, Who made you superior in your mind, Who Made you Judge and Jury, I dont Idolize any man, and I dont believe every word I read here either, by you or other Gossipers here. When does a sinner get forgiven, and how do you know that he hasnt asked for that forgiveness, I wont judge, I will leave that to small people like yourself who get off on exactly what you accuse of others, you do yourself,.

  105. MichaelM says:

    When you start off your editorial here “Why Bob Coy Can Come Back”- And then you go on a rampage to tear him and CC down, Thats deceiving and God doesnt deceive, Satan deceives, so this whole article is false like the person who wrote it.

  106. Michael says:

    I will oppose Bob Coy with my last breath…based on facts…to protect innocent people from him and protect the Body of Christ.
    You are so stupid you confused me with Saeed Abedini…who I also exposed as a fraud.
    It’s been fun, but it’s time for you to go away now.

  107. MichaelM says:

    If you have so much to give people from The Lord. Why would you waste your last breath on Bob Coy, He doesnt think about you, Hes paying for his sins, maybe not in a prison, but he made a prison in his own mind by his actions, hes lost everything, and you cant let go, who hurt you so bad that you started in South Florida and ended up in Bend Oregon, wow you really wanted to get as far away as possible, and 1 other question, if your such a great christian, how could you be a Registered Democrat, and that is a fact when they stand for Abortion, in any trimester?? Wow You will stand before God, but will he really know you??

  108. Michael says:

    You are special.
    I’ve never been in Florida or Iran.
    You’re not much of a researcher…

  109. MichaelM says:

    Saeed Abedini is an Iranian American Christian pastor who was imprisoned in Iran for threatening “national security” by making Christian gatherings. You met him in an Iranian jail?? lol

  110. Michael says:

    You are getting close to legally actionable stuff.
    I’ll ban you when I get home, but you might want to quit.
    I’ve never been to Florida or Iran and I don’t live in Bend.
    Never been in jail, anywhere.
    My opposition to Coy comes from a love of the church…which deserves better than his ilk.

  111. MichaelM says:

    The Point i was making to you, is the stuff i said I found online about you, It probably isnt all true, but its on the internet, people say a lot of things that arent true, I believe nothing of what I hear, half of what I see and just because its written in Black in White, doesnt make it true. Id rather listen to John Hagee than listen to your mouth and your lies.

  112. Michael says:

    I have to have proof of what I write due to legal liability.
    You just lied for sport and expect to get away with it.

  113. MM says:

    ”You were someones Bitch when you were in Jail in Iran-YOU ARE DEMONIC AND NOBODY SHOULD EVER POST HERE AGAIN-ALL LIES”

    Mr. M

    As a follower of Jesus I find your statement offensive and embarrassing.

  114. Michael says:

    MM,

    He’s been banned.
    I apologize for letting him bait me…long day.

  115. Lee Ryan says:

    I attended Calvary Chapel for 5 years and i remember hearing Bob Coy repeatedly telling all of us if we were living together to get out of his church, all the time he was having his moral failing or so they call it.

  116. C5 says:

    Enough of this.
    What are we doing for Hurricane Dorian victims who have lost everything? Consider the Red Cross, Caribbean Salvation Army, Agape Flight, etc.

  117. Michael says:

    C5,

    It’s not your place to monitor conversations here.
    It is my place …and I’ll make those calls,not you.

  118. Lee Ryan says:

    C5 Are you on drugs. This is a conversation about Bob Coy. There are plenty of sites to advertise help for victims.

  119. C.Lang says:

    The beauty of Christiany is forgiveness. Bob Coy didn’t commit the unforgivable sin which you are ignorant of. Read the Bible! We all are in the flesh. Upon repentance the Lord forgives. No one worshiped Bob Coy we loved him for the way he taught the word making it relatable.. He made the word come alive. We don’t judge that’s God’s job & he doesn’t need any help. Bob did sin & only God has the right to judge. Remember Jesus forgave those who killed Him! People like you have the heart of Satan!

  120. Michael says:

    C. Lang,
    I’ve read it and taught it for 30 years, you blithering idiot.
    Coy can be forgiven of God but never restored to a place where he can abuse others.
    Paul demanded we judge… look it up.

  121. Lee Ryan says:

    People in his church who were living together weren’t committing the unforgivable sin either but he wanted them out of his church all the while committing adultery and whatever else he was doing.

  122. Dan from Georgia says:

    C.Lang,

    Actually, like Michael said, we HAVE been given the right and command to judge (those inside the church). Please read your Bible.

  123. Larry Prudholme says:

    Hello my brother. I’ve been away for a long time because of personal matters as you are well aware of. But as usual, you are hitting home runs with your accuracy and accounts. God bless you Michael.

  124. Jeanne says:

    Decades ago, I tried to see this pastor for counseling. There was a figurative wall of women surrounding him who would not let me speak with him directly. I got the feeling that they felt that I wanted to hit on him or that I might try to seduce him. I just wanted to go to the horses mouth on a biblical issue, nothing more.

    Instead, I spoke with a church member, who was useless as a counselor. Now I see that I dodged a bullet. Leaving Calvary Chapel seemed to be a very good decision.

  125. Nancey Harrington says:

    I attended CC in the later 2000s. The ministry out reached of the church were fantastic. I enjoyed Bob Coys style of preaching and his wife’s Bible studies. I moved away and recently checked online to see how the church was doing. Saddened, confused, disgusted, searching back in memory for any signs cracks in the armour for these types of behaviors. Of course obviously Coy was found out and could no longer hid his addiction and infidelities, and forced to resign. I can’t imagine the pain his behaviors caused his family, church family and the community. I found your website/ reporting along with other news reports. IF he was involved in molestation of a young child then law enforcement should’ve looked to see if he was watching child pornography. I believe in redemption. However, tif the young girl that released him from the accusations with law enforcement truly was victimized she will need much counseling to overcome not only sexual abuse but emotional, and spiritual abuse as well. Even IF he is not guilty returning to ministry should not occur. The sharing of the Gospel will go forth and succeed without him in the pulpit. He needs to continue with restoring his life out of the limelight!!! One last comment/ question. It shouldn’t have been difficult for folks in the church hierarchy to additional law enforcement as to discovering the truth about the young girls claims. Coy would’ve had access to a small circle of friends who had a young girl of that age and whose mother moved away from the church to California when the girl became a teenager. If the mother believed her daughter enough to have called law enforcement 3 years after Coy leaving the church then law enforcement should’ve investigated for the girls sake. I’m sorry if the community was still dealing with the schock and disbelief of Coys downfall and behaviors. Those types of charges are serious and completely different than adultery between two consenting adults…still sin, and likely spiritual abuse, but not a serious crime like pedophilia.

  126. Joesixtoe says:

    Man the mouth on some of you is very vulgar… imagine a non Christian reading some of these comments, what would they think of our God? Are we in here representing him well? Be better, let God be glorified through our speech on this platform.

  127. Michael says:

    Imagine an non Christian reading that Christians support a creep like Coy…

  128. Sean Milchan says:

    I absolutely LOVED Bob’s teachings and went to Calvary Chapel for 20+ years. One of the last things I did with my son was go to Israel with some of the church congregants and Bob. Wonderful trip!!! One of the best experiences of my life. His announcement (literally) came right after he got back. This was a confession on his part. He was guilty and there may have been factors leading to this confession but he did confess. His life changed forever…and I’m sure he knew that was going to happen too. Bob had an anointing on him from the Lord. I was saddened and shocked… as most were. My family has moved out of the area. today I decided to do a search on Bob/what became of him. Not much on the web but and then I ran across this forum. I remember that song …”my hope is built on nothing less…than Jesus blood and righteousness…on Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand…”. You may want to consider these lyrics. Also, when I read these back and forth comments I’m equally saddened. The Bible tells me they’ll know us by our fruits. My advise is we focus on God, and loving one another. Jesus told us to do this. If Bob reads this post…I hope he’ll take the same advise. Jesus is the restorer of our soul. Making amends and peace with others cleanses our soul and frees those that we harmed.

    God Bless you all.

  129. MM says:

    Sean M.

    I never went to Bob’s church, but I did watch a couple videos of his preaching and he did have a gift, however I don’t think it was “God’s anointing.” What he had was charisma, something most big time leaders have.

    Also ask yourself, “why are there so many men throughout history who are clearly evil and yet extremely successful in gathering people around them?”

    Let’s save “God’s anointing” for the one who truly has it, Jesus, and consider what that anointing really means and the role of the one anointed is.

  130. Lee Ryan says:

    If he does get another church I pray he will not demand his congregation to get out of his church if they are sinners. We are all sinners. Not strange that he is a sinner also. Very strange that he demanded over and over again that any in his congregation need to leave his church if they are living together, sinning. I am sure if he does get another church you will be front and center, sean milchan. They will know you by your fruits. Ephesians 5:11
    Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. I agree, Bob Coy had charisma in attracting people around him, not anointing.

  131. People are human. We make mistakes. That is the reason God sent his son to die on the cross. Don’t get me wrong, I am not condoning bad behavior but what I am saying is that God forgave us through the blood that Jesus shed for our sins and the Bible clearly states that we are to forgive others just as our Father has forgiven us. It also says Judge ye not lest ye be judged… It is not my place or your place to judge anyone. Only God has that right. You do not know anything other than what was reported in the media and much of what the media puts out has a spin on it to get ratings. Did Pastor Coy make a mistake? He admitted that he did so that much we do know but to be unforgiving is not Christian like. Lee Ryan, I used to see Pastor Coy’s sermons weekly and I never once heard him tell people to get out if they were sinners. He said that they needed to stop sinning and do all for the glory of God and if we are not living to glorify Him we need to start but I never heard him say to get out if they were living wrong.
    Michael, is it a Christian act to call people names? Also can you please name book, chapter and verse that tells us to judge others? In Matthew chapter 7 beginning in verse 1, it clearly states “Judge not that ye be not judged. 2 For what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how willt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold a beam is in thine own eye?” 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
    As Christians we should be lifting one another up, not judging each other and tearing each other down. May God bless all of you in all you do.

  132. Michael says:

    Leisa,

    You are biblically illiterate.
    Coy, did not “make a mistake”, he is a predator.
    Repent.

    “For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.””
    (1 Corinthians 5:12–13 ESV)

  133. Lee Ryan says:

    Yes, I agree with Michael, you are biblically illiterate. So, people, Leisa is calling me a liar. She is saying that am making this up. To what end. and for what purpose would I gain anything from that. LOL LOL . Who are you people. Once again the victims are being attacked and not the victimizer.

  134. Lee Ryan says:

    The Bible’s command that we not judge others does not mean we cannot show discernment. Immediately after Jesus says, “Do not judge,” He says, “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs” (Matthew 7:6). A little later in the same sermon, He says, “Watch out for false prophets. . . . By their fruit you will recognize them” (verses 15–16). How are we to discern who are the “dogs” and “pigs” and “false prophets” unless we have the ability to make a judgment call on doctrines and deeds? Jesus is giving us permission to tell right from wrong.

  135. Ryan, I would not call you a liar nor did I. What I said was that I saw his teachings many times and I personally never heard him say for sinners to get out. I heard him say that if we are not living to glorify God we need to look at what we are doing and change our lives so that we are glorifying him. I can not speak to anyone else’s interpretation of what they heard.
    Michael, We are actually currently studying 1 Corinthians So if you go back to the beginning of the chapter; 1 Corinthians 5:1, “It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you and such fornication as is not so much as named among Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. ” So the context here is that they were taking Gentile law and saying that since the law says it’s ok, it must be ok so it’s fine if we do these things. Paul is telling the people of this church to stop doing these things in the name of Jesus because He does not approve and to stop hanging out with people who continue to do those things. And yes, verse 13 says “But them that are without God judgeth, therefore put away from yourselves that wicked person.”
    I don’t focus on a preacher or teacher or even religion to guide me I focus on MY relationship with God and I do my best to be the best person I can be and I try to help people see the love of Jesus in all that I do because I feel that love, not hate is going to bring others to Jesus. I used to love remembering my favorite Bible verses and sharing those with people as we were discussing religion or things that are right or wrong but a few years back someone much wiser than I will ever be asked me if I had ever looked at the context in which that verse was meant and I had to say that I had not. All I had done was memorize a verse in Sunday School so since then I really try hard to take what the Bible says in context. Thank you for saying that I am Biblically literate but there is always room for growth and improvement. I guess the point that I really wanted to make is this. GOD knows what is in Bob’s heart. He did what he did and that is the past. If he truly repented and is sorry for what he did it is up to GOD to decide his fate. May God bless you all.

  136. Nancy J Ahringer says:

    Our family Loved Pastor Bob as well. Never left Calvary without learning something from scripture.
    He was a gifted teacher and God used him to bring many to salvation. And remember what God said in Isaiah 55:11 so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.”

  137. Lee Ryan says:

    LOL LOL I loved listening to him too. Hey Leisa, Everyone heard bob coy saying get out of his church if they are living together. The 32 people in my group who left along with us heard it exactly like that. I am not delusional nor do i have hearing problems. I don’t talk for nothing. if I say something than it happened. You must be delusional for hearing what you want. We all sin. It was the hypocrisy of what he was saying and what he was doing. DUH Telling me I didn’t hear what i heard. You got alot of nerve. You ramble on and on not making any sense. So you are actually trying to turn this on us sinners in the church and not Bob Coy the sinner. LOL LOL Michael did not say you are biblically literate , he said you are biblically illiterate. Which is true. (saying that if we are not living to glorify God we need to look at what we are doing and change our lives so that we are glorifying him. I can not speak to anyone else’s interpretation of what they heard.) Leisa you are a moron. That cannot be translated into get out of my church if you are sinning. You need to get help. I suggest you do it right away.

  138. Tony Catapano says:

    I heard Bob Coy runs shipping company in Palm Beach. God can restore Bob because Bob had gave up on God. I cannot judge but for God’s mercy on behalf of Bob. He has a gift of preaching the word & he must choose to surrender himself to God. I was blessed by what he spoke & the words he gave me to bring to jail ministry.

  139. MM says:

    Tony C

    Go to scripture and look at what was on Solomon’s “headstone.”

    Here’s a man whose story and ideas are part of what we all call the bible and yet observe what is said about him when he died.

    1 Kings 11

    The narrative tells a lot about how our relationship with God can go, something many of our “teachers” forget to remind us about.

    Of course there’s also the modern adage, “power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

    Yes BC can return to God, but the he also has to face the consequences of his actions.

    You all need to let BC go.

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