Open Up, The War Is Over

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19 Responses

  1. Em says:

    Timely and accurate
    Hope new doc is a good match

  2. Babylon's Dread says:

    Open Up!

    Any amount is good,

    Civil disobedience is coming fast

    Government can only govern by assent

    That’s why CA is given over to pretty much anyone to do pretty much anything except sit on the beach

  3. This is the first pan-human event since Babel / dividing of the Nations. (I am assuming in this statement that these events effectively had the same timeframe.

  4. Duane Arnold says:

    Yes, people are angry… they were angry before this pandemic came to our shores.
    Yes, people are threatening violence and civil unrest… they were threatening this before.
    In my view, it is not a matter of a change in character… it’s a matter of a change of degree.
    The enemy should have been the virus, or the lack of preparedness or response… instead it is each other.
    Deaths, it seems, will continue. Unemployment, it seems, will get worse. Anybody who thinks that one side or another has “won” is deluded. We have all lost. It only remains to be seen how much we have already lost and how much we will lose in the days to come.

  5. Jean says:

    It sounds, from recent news reports, that Dr. Fauci has been admitted to the political ICU.

  6. Jean says:

    Civil righteousness is falling in the polls.

  7. filbertz says:

    when the s**t hits the fan like this, it can and must be seen by believers in Jesus as an opportunity to tangibly demonstrate the reason(s) for the hope within. (provided we can verbalize those reasons…or have hope…or care enough to tangibly demonstrate them…)

    Never mind.

    😉

  8. Em says:

    Yes, fil,’ Amen – we must be seen by the world as rational, but confident in what we believe – our sure hope
    Mebbe, it our chance to demonstrate God’s grace, too? 😇

  9. Opening up will confirm that this was a “nothing burger,” even though deaths will continue. I don’t believe it is a nothing burger, but the anger and frustration has cut across political lines on the street. The fallout talk a year from now will be interesting, and we’ve already seen hints of it: the concept of UBI, remote work for a lot, distance learning (hopefully this will start a national discussion about the ridiculousness of college costs, but I’m not going to hold my breath).

    I saw a rainbow at walmart this evening. I commented to a random woman taking a picture in the parking lot. When I got to my car, an elderly Vietnamese lady pointed it out and told me to take a picture. She said that she made a wish that the virus would be over by Christmas so she could enjoy a normal Christmas. Such is the hope of random people we encounter in Wal-Mart parking lots. I felt happy driving home.

  10. jtk says:

    We aren’t planning a reopening but could someone provide the link seen here previously about how to responsibly open a church?

    Steve Wright’s video was helpful earlier.

  11. directambiguity says:

    Maybe we can come together in opening up our country.

  12. Jeff Sheckstein says:

    Jtk

    Check with your insurance carrier. I have seen material from both Church Mutual and Brotherhood that was excellent. They are also offering free webinars. Mind you, I’m sure when you reopen, your insurance carrier will likely, if not certainly, review your reopening policy and implementation procedures in assessing your premium for your upcoming policy period…and likely have the right to increase your premium immediately if they audit your church and find your policy deficient.

    Also, if you use or know a church that uses a PEO, they too have outstanding webinars available and you can be assured of their quality and thoroughness as the PEO is jointly liable with the church for employee’s welfare.

    Not knowing your church size, facilities, etc., and If you can wait a few days, I can send you our church’s plan, but it is mega church sized and may be more intricate than your needs. Lots a input, including myself from a operational and legal perspective.

  13. Jean says:

    Apparently, the CDC published today guidance for safely reopening certain places: schools, workplaces, camps, childcare centers, mass transit systems, and bars and restaurants.

    Although in a prior draft the CDC worked on guidance for safely reopening places of worship, that category was not included in the CDC guidance which has been published.

    Questions for the readers:

    Would houses of worship like to have CDC guidance for safely reopening?

    Do you believe that the Holy Spirit will protect your house of worship, so that CDC guidance is unnecessary?

    Is CDC guidance an encroachment on your constitutional right to practice your religion?

  14. directambiguity says:

    Would houses of worship like to have CDC guidance for safely reopening?

    Rather than guidance, I would like to hear their recommendations.

    Do you believe that the Holy Spirit will protect your house of worship, so that CDC guidance is unnecessary?

    Maybe, I would like to hear other recommendations also.

    Is CDC guidance an encroachment on your constitutional right to practice your religion?

    Possibly.

  15. CM says:

    What people fail to understand is that during a quarantine, local authorities have had wide latitude since the Colonial era to place restrictions. For all those anti-lockdown people, I suggest they read up the SCOTUS and other case law.

    Here are 2 examples:

    Compagnie Francaise de Navigation a Vapeur v. Louisiana Board of Health, 186 U.S. 380 (1902)

    Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905)

    I suggest they read those and get a clue.

  16. Em says:

    Quarantine individuals or whole community?

    As a child i remember quarantine sogns on houses, but…..

  17. Owen says:

    “People are angry and restless and the new buzzword is “tyranny”.

    People no longer believe they are being protected, but oppressed…by “tyrants”.”

    I cannot fathom this…… I openly admit to all here that I am spoiled and sheltered – here in BC, we’ve not seen that kind of behaviour.

    We’ve seen the occasional small protest, and there are the usual theories online regarding the government being too controlling – but by and large, I’ve not seen that mindset in practice here.
    For the most part, people have been well behaved with distancing, staying home, etc…..therefore our numbers regarding new cases have declined fairly steadily.

    My continued prayers to my southern neighbours…..

  18. jtk says:

    Jeff, I would greatly appreciate it.

    legokingnm AT gmail.com

  19. Maybe not oppression, but here in Cali there is looniness, like San Francisco supplying drugs and alcohol to homeless that the city has sheltered.

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