Who Cares About The CGN Conference?

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  1. CM says:

    Michael,

    Methinks that CGN will be cut loose to either sink or swim on its own before too long. The Costa Mecca mother ship cannot continue to pour money into it.

    What about about their “Mirror, Mirror” (to use the old Star Trek TOS episode reference) counterparts in CCA and their conference? Anything new about them?

  2. Michael says:

    Not really.
    Their leadership is aging out.
    Many of them rode the Trump train hard…we’ll see how that wears in times to come.

  3. Linn says:

    What I remember from CGN was the music (70s/80s). For the most part, it was good and singable, and most Christians seemed to like it. Chuck Smith was on the radio, and although I’ve never been Charismatic, I did find most of his teaching engaging and edifying. I left the country for a few years, and came back to find that CGN was full of scandal. It did make me very sad.

  4. DavidM says:

    By the way . . . who ARE the speakers?😂

  5. Michael says:

    DavidM,

    I don’t know.
    The speakers used to be chosen at a January meeting by Chuck Smith and some pastors that were in his favor at the moment.
    Now, Brian Brodersen and his crew pick them when they can…the roster hasn’t been set by now in the last few years.

  6. Nick Cady says:

    Some other things to consider:
    1) Maybe CGN is succeeding in moving away from the celebrity culture that was present in CC in the past. Brian has purposefully platformed non-celebrity pastors and small-church pastors at these conferences for the past few years.
    2) Maybe you are not considered the authority or insider on CC which you were thought to be in the past.
    3) Christian conference interest and attendance is waning across the board.
    4) These “heavy hitters” you speak of: I’m curious who they are. I don’t think the situation is quite as you claim.

    I’ll be at the CGN conference. Looking forward to it.

  7. CM says:

    Michael,

    I do find it ironic that a bunch of now-aging hipsters who rebelled against the economic, cultural, music, and religious norms of the era went all in to the epitome of crony capitalist con artist that was Trump.

    “There’s nothing as pathetic as an aging hipster.” The CCA big names only proves it.

  8. Michael says:

    Nick,

    You showed up later than I expected… 🙂
    I agree with one through three to a degree…especially two and three.
    I would quarrel a bit with the first claim…I’m not sure how successful they’ve been.

    The” heavy hitters” I refer to are the prominent CC pastors of the past…Reis, Macintosh, Heitzig, etc.
    The new blood like Randall and Hibbs are also CCA.

    I appreciate your place in the group and your vigor in supporting it.

  9. Wendi says:

    I wonder if the lack of unique identity is intentional in the name of not becoming hyper focused on a specific individual or to try to avoid an us VS them mentality. . CGN seems more like a collaborative project, which I actually find refreshing.

  10. Michael says:

    Wendi,

    It can be a good thing…but historically the groups that survive have a common identity.
    When that identity becomes unclear or divisive the group has a very difficult time sustaining itself.

  11. Michael says:

    While I’m here…I fully admit that I no longer consider myself expert on anything current in the CC/CGN world.
    I am simply a veteran observer who is still connected by friendship to some pastors in the group.
    My relevance has declined along with the significance of the movement.
    I prefer to write about and live among cats these days…

  12. CM says:

    Michael,

    I guess a commentator on hippie culture will find less to write and talk about (and be less relevant) once all the hippies start dying off. No different than the Deadheads having to do something else once The Grateful Dead ceased to exist.

  13. Michael says:

    CM,

    My primary interest was always in exposing corruption and the systems that propagated it.
    I think we did a good job, but it was, as they say, urinating in the wind.
    I’m trying to dry off and enjoy what’s left of my time…

  14. CM says:

    Michael,

    Agreed. Towel yourself off thoroughly and relax with your cats.

    😀

  15. BrideofChrist says:

    I attended Calvary Chapels in southern California twice a week for over thirty years. I attended North Park Calvary with Mike Macintosh, Encinitas Calvary with Ed Smith, Poway Calvary with Him Hesterly, and I attended Calvary Chapel Vista for 20 years with Brian Broderson- whew, that’s a lot of Calvary Chapel! I haven’t attended CC for four years now, but like Michael, I still have many friends who are part of Calvary Chapel. Does anyone know if CC Costa Mesa under Brian Broderson jumped on the Trump bandwagon as enthusiasticly as many other CCs did? He was the pastor who influenced me the most as I attended his church in Vista for the longest. I am somehow always interested to hear about what is happening in the CC world – I suppose because it was such a large part of my life for so long. There was much that was good, much that was bad, and the bad seemed to be out weighing the good when I tore myself away from Calvary Chapel.

  16. JD says:

    They should have plenty of lucre if they sell Murrieta Hot Springs for $60 million.

  17. Em says:

    CM @12:45
    😏

  18. Michael says:

    BoC,

    Brodersen did not join the Trump train, to his credit.

  19. BrideofChrist says:

    Michael, I am glad to hear that about Pastor Brian Broderson. He is the head of CGN , so in my opinion, that makes CGN a more Christian organization than the Calvary Chapel Association.

  20. EricL says:

    They might have extra cash to fund CGN once they sell their main Bible College/ Retreat Center. You can buy it for $50 million.
    https://www.pe.com/2021/02/10/who-wants-to-buy-this-43-acre-religious-retreat-in-murietta/

  21. CM says:

    Michael @ 4:33 pm,

    Maybe because Brodersen realized it was a crazy train headed off the rails.

    Obligatory Ozzy Youtube below:

  22. Steve says:

    CM, how many of us are on the Biden Bus?

  23. JD says:

    Crickets 🦗

  24. Ethan says:

    Wrong thread. That will net you zero responses.

    Not too bright, are you two.

  25. pstrmike says:

    Some other things to consider.

    I never sign up for anything (conferences or retreats) without seeing a schedule and knowing who is going to speak. I see this announcement from CGN and think, “same ol’ Calvary Chapel.”

    I don’t know if I want to go to Southern Cal with Covid still being an issue.

    I’m really out of the loop regarding anything Calvary. Most of my “friends” who are pastors within Calvary are more inclined to participate in CCA events than CGN. I’m the opposite. I’ve always liked Brian and grew to distrustful of most of what became the CCA. No surprise to me that Brian left the counsel and started a new thing.

    I don’t even know how to “plug in” to CGN primarily because what is available to engage with them are not the areas that draw me. I’m also NW Baptist now, and the connection locally works for me. Most local CC guys are, as I said, CCA.

    Whether small church pastors are getting more of a platform, it’s still a matter of who you know. But that’s everywhere, pretty much how things operate. I wonder if they would want the guy who the Phoenix Preacher claimed to be his pastor to speak next year? LoL!!!

    The normal response I get from people when I tell them that I was Calvary is laughter……..

    That tells me something.

  26. Steve says:

    Ethan, LOL

  27. Steve says:

    Ethan, LOL. It was meant for a response.

  28. Michael says:

    The curse of binary thinking…just because one voted to remove Trump doesn’t mean they supported Biden in any substantial way.

    I would have voted for damn near anyone else to lose Trump…

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