Attorney Letter To Potters Field Victims

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20 Responses

  1. Chlodwig says:

    How did you obtain this letter?

  2. Michael says:

    What difference does it make? It’s obviously for public consumption.

  3. Chlodwig says:

    There seems to be race underway to get into place an injunction (or some other legal recourse) to prevent any liquidation of assets that migth place those assets out of reach of people who might seek compensation for damages. The crux of the issue is the various time limits imposed by Montana laws. At least, that’s how I read this letter. (As the saying goes, IANAL.)

    I am guessing here that somebody got this letter in his/her mail and arranged with you to get a pdf copy via a rather oddball URL link to secureservercdn.net. As far a I can tell, this letter is not published at Edmiston & Colton’s web site (www.yellowstonelaw.com).

    I would also guess that Rob McCoy and the Rozells will probably adjust their plans accordingly.

  4. Michael says:

    This really isn’t that complicated.
    For those victims who may wish to pursue legal recourse, this is information they need.
    We’ve been the go to place for information on the case so it would only make sense to post it here.
    The “oddball” link is simply where the graphics for this site are stored.

  5. JM says:

    Thank you, Michael, for keeping us informed!

  6. How? says:

    How did you get this letter

  7. How? says:

    Also there is only 40 people who in the last 180 days have worked for Mudman or PFM.

  8. MM says:

    How

    Did you read the whole letter and the law? Somethings extend well beyond 180 days.

    What this letter does is put those currently responsible for PFM legally on notice.

  9. Martin says:

    As Michael stated it doesn’t matter how the letter was obtained. What matters is the information to help those affected is available.

    The more important question should be “has there been any public statement of repentance from the Rozell’s yet? ”

    Does Mr. Rozell have any brothers that care enough about him to come alongside him to let him know that for the good of all and for his own good is to repent and come clean?

  10. Michael says:

    No there hasn’t been any acknowledgement of wrong at all from the Rozells. Yes, they’ve been encouraged to come clean. Don’t hold your breath…

  11. Out of reach says:

    Well, I guess 100 of us are screwed and have no option of recourse for our trauma, verbal abuse, and losing our homes….

    Montana is a rather libertarian state with truncated statutes of limitations. If this were Cali or some other liberal slum-land I’m sure we’d all get a piece of the legal pie.

    Maybe all us ex-staffers and interns could just invoice the Rozell’s for “pain and suffering”? 🙂

  12. Jean says:

    Does “liberal slum-land” mean protecting the public against corporations? Nice worldview; very Christian.

  13. Bride of Christ says:

    Out of Reach – I can understand how you might be bitter after what you have been through – it’s completely understandable. I live in Oceanside, California. Yes, California has more laws protecting our oceans and natural environment, and we also have more laws protecting ordinary Californians from exploitation. Your anger seems misplaced, however. Why insult the “liberal” states that stand up for the average joe rather than always siding with big businesses and the wealthy corporations? These big corporations and organizations claim they are perfectly capable of policing themselves, but often that seems to be not the case doesn’t it ?

  14. “No there hasn’t been any acknowledgement of wrong at all from the Rozells. Yes, they’ve been encouraged to come clean. Don’t hold your breath…”

    I guess they didn’t learn from Jimmy Swaggart :^p

  15. Duane Arnold says:

    Just as a note, if the Rozells employed contracts, the statute of limitations could extend to 2-3 years in Montana. I’m sure that the lawyers will be looking at this…

  16. Not an Attorney says:

    It should be noted that If any of the aggrieved non exempt PFM or Mudman truck former employees performed ANY WORK IN CALIFORNIA ,said workers could still bring a PAGA action against the out of state employer in a California Court. It doesn’t matter if an employer is based out of state, an employer that has or had any employees perform any work in CA must abide by the corresponding CA labor code/wage order PERIOD.

    If I were the Rozell’s or a director on the board of PFM this would keep me awake at night. Now would be a great time to repent and make things right with all these young people. All it takes is one aggrieved employee who performed any work in CA to bring a representative action against the employer which means the suit essentially becomes a class action case without the class certification requirements. This would be the way to get around the more employer friendly Montana state labor codes.

    A little background on California’s PRIVATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL ACT of 2004 (aka PAGA)
    https://www.calpeculiarities.com/2019/06/24/california-dreamin-peculiar-laws-to-consider-when-crossing-state-lines/

    https://www.fisherphillips.com/resources-newsletters-article-weve-received-a-paga-notice-now-what

  17. 1 Cor 6:7 says:

    Is the goal to complete destroy?

  18. JM says:

    1 Cor 6:7

    The Rozells destroyed themselves, the ministry and many of God’s people. While litigation should not be the first choice, there are precedents where going outside for justice can be the only recourse. When God’s people would not repent and clean out the sin from their own house God judged His own people using outside agencies (Assyrians, Babylonians, etc.). There were warnings about PFM that went unheeded for a very long time. The leavenous beliefs by many involved in this certainly fed the blindness. This leaven should be identified and thrown out or it will happen again.

    Even beloved David faced being turned over to his enemies when he committed an act of grave disobedience. As it was, 70,000 other people died on account of David’s sin and he had to live with that the rest of his life. Again, the Rozells are the destroyers and all who went along with them. None of us are above consequences for our sin. Sadly, horrific leaders cause horrific suffering and we need to wake up and learn from this. There is evil in the camp and too many leaders are asleep at the wheel. We must learn to protect ourselves from the predators inside the gates.

    Here’s a sampling of verses that have been applied in such cases:

    “Tend–nurture, guard guide and fold–the flock of God that is [your responsibility], not by coercion or constraint but willingly; not dishonorably motivated by the advantages and profits [belonging to the office] but eagerly and cheerfully. Not (as arrogant, dictatorial and overbearing persons) domineering over those in your charge, but being examples–patterns and models of Christian living–to the flock (the congregation).”, I Peter 5:2 & 3, Amp.
    Rozells & Company: GUILTY

    “NOT Many [of you] should become teachers [self-constituted censors and reprovers of others], my brethren, for you know that we [teachers] will be judged by a higher standard and with greater severity [than other people]. –Thus we assume the greater accountability and the more condemnation.”, James 3:1, Amp.
    Rozells & Company: THEY ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ABUSING GOD’S PEOPLE

    “But now I write to you not to associate with any one who bears the name of [Christian] brother, if he is known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater–that is, whose soul is devoted to any object that usurps the place of God–or [is] a person with a foul tongue (railing, abusing, reviling, slandering), or is a drunkard, or a swindler or a robber. [No] you must not so much as eat with such a person.”, I Corinthians 5:11, Amp.
    Rozells & Company: WHAT OUR REACTION SHOULD BE IF THERE IS NO REPENTANCE

    “Thus says the Lord God, ‘Behold, I am against the shepherds, and I shall demand My sheep from them and make them cease from feeding sheep. So the shepherds will not feed themselves anymore, but I shall deliver My flock from their mouth, that they may not be food for them.'”, Ezekiel 34:10, NASB
    Rozells & Company: WHAT GOD IS GOING TO DO

  19. Not an Attorney says:

    It has been brought to my attention that some of the mudman truck employees may have done catering at conferences or other events within California’s borders. Its important to note that California has very draconian Joint employment/Joint Liability laws that essentially allow plaintiffs attorneys to go after deep pocket third party defendants for wage and hour or any other labor code violations.

    Why should this matter? simple, hypothetically If my church contracted any of the PFM/mudman trucks to do any catering at a conference that my church put together within California’s borders, my church and its directors could be held jointly liable for any wage and hour, osha, workplace injuries, discrimination, sexual harassment, wrongful termination, or other employment related claims. In other words for legal purposes in California any Mudman employees who worked at the conference are also the church’s employees.

    Ultimately if I were any organization/ministry that may have had PFM/mudman trucks work at my conference in the golden state, I would be reaching out to legal counsel knowledgeable in CA employment law to see how big the potential exposure for my organization may be as a result of the mudman trucks and what can be done proactively to limit such exposure.

    Again the is not to be considered legal advice. If your church or organization needs legal advice please consult a licensed employment attorney licensed to practice law in CA.

    A little background
    https://www.calrest.org/labor-employment/what-joint-employment-and-why-does-it-matter

  20. DawnMarie says:

    It is a sad day when those who are hurting have to turn to the worlds court’s to get an acknowledgment of wrong doing. Might be wishful thinking, but I would have hoped that those who were called by God to guide and protect His sheep would rise up. They would speak out against the wrongs that have been done. That they would be the first to run to those with wounds and want to bind them.

    I think the worse part is that the most traumatized can’t even speak right now, but they are the only ones who have a place in Montana courts. I pray that they can find the strength of God to put words to the abuse. There are many of us who believe them. There are many of us who pray for them. There are many of us who will stand with them.

    Thank you, Michael, for posting this! Your support in this has changed everything!

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