Calvary Chapel Chronicles

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  1. BrianD says:

    I wouldn’t mind perspectives on the Calvary movement from outside Southern California…what was the culture clash like? Going into areas where Chuck was virtually unknown? Did the church become a theological/Calvary cultural outpost/hospital for other Calvary Chapelites?

  2. Thin Kfory Ourself says:

    As a long time X CC’er from the right coast I can tell you that Chuck was revered like the Pope. The other guys (Don, Mike, JC, Raul, Jeff, Greg etc…) were likened unto the Disciples. It was the cult of personality. Romaine stories were the stuff of legend.
    What would be of great help is to tell us where you guys fit into the CC history, to give more context. Please forgive our naivete but how are you privy to all the inside info?
    If you read some of the comments in this series some of the stories and thus relevance is lost because we don’t know the back stories. It is what it is but would be helpful if people kept that in mind when commenting.
    Otherwise great series and most within the movement will think you are of the devil … funny how that works.

  3. Bride of Christ says:

    I would like to see Michael do an article on the children of Calvary Chapel. I attended Calvary for 30 years and I taught in California on luv schools during those same years. My two children attended Calvary with us – twice a week – for about a dozen years but once therefore 12 and 14 the church kids became disdainful of the public school kids. Our church had a K-12 school that met at the church facility. My daughter was the Vista High Christian Club schoolteacher and her friends invited her to North Coast Church , so we reluctantly allowed them to attend there. Rachael we dropped them off and picked them up at their cjurch, along with a $ donation, and My husband and I continued to attend Calvary. My daughters are now 29 and 32 and they are happy, successful U.C., married U.C. graduates with good careers. All of their friends from my luv school have grown into happy, well -adjusted young adults. Not so with their Calvary Chapel childhood friends.

  4. Bride of Christc says:

    I have had a unique perspective as a public school teacher and a member of Calvary Chapel and I have k own dozens and dozens of young people who grew up in the Calvary Chapel system and also dozens who grew up outside of that system. I am very saddened by the large number of Calvary kids who grew up troubled and unprepared for life. None of the kids my children attended Calvary with graduated from college. Most either attended Calvary Bible College of married right out of high school. One of my closest friends had a daughter congratulated from the Calvary High School and married her Calvary Chapel High School principal, who was 12″ years older than she was – yikes. Most of the Calvary Chapel heads could not find work or support their families. Two of their Calvary friends who grew up to develop anorexia and were repeatedly hosptilalized. I know of at least 8 kids who bolted from their parents at age 18 and necessitating home. Their parents are estranged from those children and have had no contact with them I knew one 16-year-okd young man who went on a missionary to Europe with Calvary ( the castle trip) He defected while there and never came home. He lied about his age and lived and worked in Europe for two years. His mother was a nurse. My best friend has a daughter who graduated from the CAfive years of marriage, with a 22 month old baby and another in the way, he started to drink and told her he wanted a divorc. Just two weeks ago she had her second baby and now she i29, fivirced, and the mother of a newborn baby and a 22 moth old baby. This young man seemed like such a nice young man. Apparently his Calvary Chapel upbringing failed to prepare  or life. I don’t know is him well, but I suspect that he is iterrible turmoil.

  5. Bride of Christ says:

    Yikes. I am sorry from the typos. I tried to post this two previous times but I was bounced out of the system, so I was rushing to get it posted before it was bounced again. I am sad about how many of the Calvary kids I know are struggling now as adults. I am hoping to see Michael address this. Sorry again about the above typos.

  6. Bride of Christ says:

    Gosh ,my daughter in the above post was the treasurer of the Christian Club at Vista High School ( not a teacher there as posted) when her friends invited her to North Coast Church in Vista when she stopped attending Calvary Chapel.

  7. Em says:

    Regarding the litany of the failed children of church goers – it is not the Faith that failed, ’twas those adults tasked with the nurture and admonition… from what i observed… dunno

  8. Chris says:

    The “grace” perversion in Sandpoint with Ben Ortize taught us that pastors need accountability. He had none and was “sent” by no one. Now his father, Ken Ortize of Spokane Calvary has come to his financial rescue. At first he confessed to all the porn and abuse— to 6 men. After a few weeks he denied it all and blamed everything on his wife. It is so sick! I believe God is purging the churches—separating the sheep from the goats.

  9. Candace says:

    I’ve asked what years Chuck’s affair took place

    Wondered if it was while I was attending.

  10. Ike says:

    Take your time Michael to get it rigjt!

    Praying for a full recovery.

  11. Reuben says:

    Michael, the Vineyard/CC split has always intrigued me. John Wimber, in my mind, is still one of the coolest guys in recent church history that ever did preach. As you know, I was tied up in Vineyard, where I experienced my first “spiritual trauma” under James Ryle over the whole “Sons Of Thunder” prophesy. I was “anointed” in Vineyard to be an “evangelistic worship warrior”. Not making these terms up. I don’t know what happened to Vineyard, but some strange things came from it, like the KC Prophets, which I got all sorts of caught up in too. I never got any of that nonsense from Wimber. He was such a gentle guy by comparison. Interested in a bit more definitive history.

  12. Reuben says:

    Vineyard, talk about power of presence when it came to the pastor, they were revered as prophets of god himself, when they spoke, god spoke, period. What a damaging experience that was. I could write on it quite a bit.

  13. Hannah Wills says:

    I attended a Calvary Chapel on the east coast for over six years. Things got a little weird, like I couldn’t put my finger on it. Extremely nice helpful Jesus loving people who supported me in an extremely difficult time. Yet their views on women at the foundation level is toxic and it bleeds through.
    The weirdness was- If I questioned something that was said in a sermon or to me directly it was denied as being said, “that’s not what I said” even though I clearly heard it. Or at very least “That’s not what I meant” even though tone and body language said that’s what he meant.
    The assistant pastor put down my blog site to me over the phone, he only wanted my blog to reach or minister to women. When I tried to protect my two little children’s child support via Facebook, he called it “airing my dirty laundry on Facebook”, but when my oldest( I have 3 kids)did the same thing it was okay, I guess because my oldest is grown and a man. I was told I was playing the victim over being upset that my assistant pastor reprimanded me for my Facebook. I was told I was divisive because it didn’t sit well with me when the assistant pastor said “single moms do well but they are not equipped by God to lead their children”
    I made the decision Tuesday morning to just leave, I’ve been struggling with leaving for two years, I feel their is a bait and switch technique that kept me there. I’m going back to the Free Methodist whew!

  14. JD says:

    Hannah, they do seem cult-like when you ask questions or leave. Many here have had similar experiences to what you described and I’m sure will be praying for you. Thanks for sharing.

  15. Chris Long says:

    Reuben, in addition to whatever Michael shares, there’s a really insightful book out there called “The Quest for the Radical Middle” by Bill Jackson. It’s from the Vineyard perspective but I found the CC/Vineyard split part of it particularly fascinating when I read it years ago.

  16. Reuben says:

    Chris Long, I will look for that book, thanks!

  17. JM says:

    Had to be away for some days, so I have more than a little upon which to catch up. We are sincerely sorry to hear that you continue to fight such a fierce battle with your health, Michael. We do not cease to pray for you. As I have stated before, we have been thoughtful and concerned that you might suffer deeper trials for the truths you have been willing to expose here. We feel the CC Machine was nothing, if not formidable. We will continue our intercession and pray that God will send you protection, refreshment, help and encouragement– all in great supply. May we all continue to encourage one another upon every opportunity given until we all reach the finish line. 🙂

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