Jeans Gospel: The God Who Hides Himself

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  1. JoelG says:

    “There is no event so common place but that God is present within it, always hidden, always leaving you room to recognize Him or not to recognize Him.” – Frederick Buechner

  2. Em ... again says:

    this is a wonderful post – that said…
    can we know anything about why God stood back and allowed Job to be tested so “unfairly” and severely? Job 2:4-6 gives us some hints, does it not? … the question at the bottom of it all that we cannot answer is, why Satan? … speculate on that one and we wade into deep, maybe forbidden, waters
    however, we are supposed to be honored if we find ourselves tested and that is a hard one (especially, if you’re the one being tested) – but the war heroes are not the ones who just stay home and drill… we have a hint as to why we’re tested, i think … James 1:2 and 1 Pet 1:6-7
    the big blanket test for the Church right now today, might be the popularity of the prosperity gospel? dunno

    the PhoenixPreacher has me pondering again – thank you, Jean and Michael, also

  3. Jean says:

    Thanks Em.

    I didn’t read what happened to Job as a test, but I can appreciate how someone might draw that inference. If it was a test, it came with a tremendous amount of human collateral damage.

    Regarding Satan’s involvement, we do have Scriptural support from, for example, Judas Iscariot that God uses Satan to accomplish his will.

  4. Em ... again says:

    Jean, God does look at death differently than we do … 🙂 i have known too many seriously devoted Believers who have lost children to not conclude that God can test us in that regard, too … i wonder how God viewed Job’s wife’s response – with grace, perhaps? not sure that this test was aimed at her… dunno

    God using Satan? i completely agree – this is part of the mystery, but we do have hints – no concrete answers, but hints, i think

    i’d better get to my morning chores before my “sins of omission” catch up with me

  5. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    1.) My view is that God does not answer questions because we would just come back with a dozen more.

    2.) God’s answer to our questions is an object lesson – “look at my dead son hanging on the cross.”

    3.) When we question God, we are putting God on trial.

  6. Mr Jesperson says:

    The book of Job tends to be a book that is underutilized and underappreciated overall because it deals with a righteous man’s suffering. And that is a topic that is hardly popular in our materialistic age. Job has been one of my favorite books of the Old Testament. We are warned that trials and tribulations come. Most all believers will go through times that are very rough, many at an old age when friends and family are dying off and health is failing. Spouses die or you get sick and make a widow or widower out of your loved one. Some bury their own children. We watch our parents fail, put them in nursing homes and then go to their funerals. There really is an object lesson in holding on to the goodness of God in our hearts despite all of the sorrow that we face because of life’s unpleasant realities.

  7. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I think it is important to remember that this is not between God and Job or Satan and Job and somehow Job (and us) are to learn a lesson. This is between God and Satan and it is for Satan to learn a lesson.

  8. Em ... again says:

    MLD’s point #2 – amen – that’s where all roads lead for the Believer in time

    “3.) When we question God, we are putting God on trial.” to a great extent i can agree with that … and it was resolved for Job before his trial ended…
    BTW – is complaining the same as questioning? as my daughter said (when she was about 6) ‘I’m NOT complaining; I’m just talking about how it is.” 🙂
    getting to the point where i can say, “Thy will be done…” to God and not just be resigned to it, but praise Him for it… hmmm ….

  9. Jean says:

    MLD #7,

    Amen!

    “My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.”
    John 10:29 ESV

  10. Jean says:

    Em,

    Luke 18 – Parable of the Persistent Widow.

    The Psalms are full of complaints.

    He wants us to be real with Him. Jesus’ cry of dereliction was from Psalm 22.

  11. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I was careful to word my statement “when we question God”
    example – Why does God allow evil? At that point you have assumed knowledge above and beyond what God knows or what God is allowed to do.

    So, to resolve it, we will now call God to the witness stand to defend himself.

  12. Em ... again says:

    “So, to resolve it, we will now call God to the witness stand to defend himself.” 🙂

    Job 40:1-7 and on to the end of the book, eh?

  13. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    “So, to resolve it, we will now call God to the witness stand to defend himself.”

    I was saying that in a pejorative sense. Woe to the man who questions God’s actions and motives Who would dare make God explain himself? — oh, I do it all the time and Woe to me.

  14. Paul A. Lytton says:

    MLD, Double AMEN to yopur #7.

  15. Paul A. Lytton says:

    I should re-read before I post. #14 should be ‘your’ not ‘yopur’

  16. Cash says:

    Wonderful post, Jean, and great comments too. I’ve always wondered why God upbraided Job for his questioning but allowed the Psalmists to complain about a lot of stuff 🙂

  17. Jean says:

    Thank you Cash.

  18. Josh the Beloved says:

    I like to think of the God who hides himself as Jehovah Sneaky

  19. Babylon's Dread says:

    Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal things,
    but the glory of kings is to search things out.
    3 As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth,
    so the heart of kings is unsearchable.

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