Kevin’s Conversations: Childlike Faith

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  1. Josh the Baptist says:

    That disc must have come out in like, 1994? Me and my friends were already making music at that time, trying to share our faith with friends, and there was just nothing remotely close to our kind of thing. I went on a retreat and heard “Flood”, went to the gift shop and bought the disc. It was the first major release that captured what was going on in the scene. I saw them live shortly after, and they were a mess, so a pretty much lost my ability to enjoy their music. Still, for a few minutes that disc was everything.

    Good memories Kevin, both of the music and of the time when I had faith like a child.

  2. Kevin H says:

    Josh, I think it was 1995.

    I actually had the opposite experience as far as seeing them at a show. They were the opening act for another band (PFR) that had stopped at our school during their tour. Me and none of my friends knew anything about Jars of Clay, nor do I think Flood was climbing the radio charts yet. So we decided to go to the concert and came away thinking that, that Jars of Clay band was quite good. In fact, we liked them better than PFR, the act we had gone to see. They must have had their act together that night.

  3. Josh the Baptist says:

    I had friends who saw them later who said they were phenomenal. I think they weren’t quite ready for the large venue I saw them at. They kind of mumbled a lot in between songs, did imitations of a cappuccino machine…just kind of a mess. A bad live performance can just kill a musician for me, and as the say, you only get one chance to make a first impression.

  4. Josh the Baptist says:

    You are right, google says OCt 25 1995.

  5. Duane Arnold says:

    Like the band… Love the article. The attributes of a child like faith – innocence, wonder, trust – are too often jettisoned as grow up. Many thanks, Kevin

  6. Duane Arnold says:

    Kevin
    A bit of related trivia. When Randy Stonehill and Keith Green wrote “Your Love Broke Through” there was an extra verse that neither Keaggy nor Green included when they recorded it. Randy, for years, left it out of his live performances. Finally, I told him that it was one of his best lyrics and he should use it. I’m pleased to say he now performs it with the missing verse:

    There is nothing in this whole wide world that means this much to me
    In Your love, I have found the truth and truth has set me free
    Now I’m feeling like a barefoot child dancing in the sun
    Unafraid, I can face each day because of all You’ve done
    Now my life has just begun

  7. Kevin H says:

    Thanks, Duane.

    Neat story about Stonehill & Green. Their prominence in CCM was a bit before I took an interest in the genre, but I certainly know them and the song.

  8. Dan from Georgia says:

    PFR was from my home state of Minnesota and a friend and I also saw Jars Of Clay and PFR together in concert!

    I was one who last week skewered CCM. But in the spirit of full disclosure, I have quite a collection of older CCM and praise and worship tapes and CDs which I will never part with. It’s what CCM has become that I will rip. I was more into the lesser popular CCM artists back then, like rappers PID and D-Boy, and metal bands Vengeance, Whitecross. And Sacred Warrior. Also a fan of Jars of Clay!

  9. Erunner says:

    I left this very late on the Loose Ends thread last week so I thought I’d leave it here. Thanks for your thoughts Kevin.

    I have a long history with music. Through the years I’ve seen all sorts of attacks on CCM.

    I’m sure throughout the years there’s been all sorts of disturbing stories. I’m aware of most of them.

    Larry Norman comes to mind. His story in hindsight is really quite sad.

    I’ve read tons on the criticism of all sorts of “modern” or contemporary music. And then I read what the writers suggested was worthwhile. I often chuckled as I couldn’t stand so much of it on any level. I didn’t begrudge their taste. I simply disagreed.

    Music I might not enjoy and music across the spectrum is invariably disliked by some. On the other hand there’s much music in the Christian world for us to choose from and enjoy.

    As none of us can see into the hearts of various artists how on earth do we know how God responds to their “offerings” to Him?

    Who are we to say what music God chooses to minister to or uplift His children? Again, we can’t. We can offer opinions.

    I came up in the church being told what to listen to. I eventually made peace with the place of music and its impact on my life. No one can take that from me. I certainly wouldn’t do that to anyone else.

  10. JoelG says:

    This article reminds me of a quote from G.K. Chesterton with regards to childlikeness and how we lose it as we get old and jaded:

    “Because children have abounding vitality, because they are in spirit fierce and free, therefore they want things repeated and unchanged. They always say, “Do it again”; and the grown-up person does it again until he is nearly dead. For grown-up people are not strong enough to exult in monotony. But perhaps God is strong enough to exult in monotony. It is possible that God says every morning, “Do it again” to the sun; and every evening, “Do it again” to the moon. It may not be automatic necessity that makes all daisies alike; it may be that God makes every daisy separately, but has never got tired of making them. It may be that He has the eternal appetite of infancy; for we have sinned and grown old, and our Father is younger than we.”

  11. Descended says:

    Joel

    That is a really cool thought. Thanks 🙂

  12. bob1 says:

    JG,

    Would love to know what book of GKD’s that quote’s in. It’s really great.

  13. JoelG says:

    Bob,

    https://www.amazon.com/Orthodoxy-G-K-Chesterton/dp/1449529259

    Descended,

    It is something to ponder…

  14. Linnea says:

    Kevin…hear what you are saying. Love this artist and what he represents in this song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2jpAdXEtV0

  15. Descended says:

    Sometimes I read the comments before the article,

    So now that I have read it

    I have one burning question…

    What the heck is a CD?

  16. Descended says:

    Duane

    I’ve been rocking Keith Green since I was four, around the same time I first heard MJ’s “Rock With You”. I think besides the 50’s, the eighties were the best decade to be a kid 🙂

  17. Josh the Baptist says:

    CD – Imagine putting putting about 10 mp3s on a USB drive. Slowly heat the drive to about 212 degrees Fahrenheit. When the plastic is soft and malleable, smash it flat into a circular shape.

    That’s kinda what a CD is.

  18. Descended says:

    X-D

    Good one!

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