Kevin”s Conversations: Confounded by Conflict

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  1. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    “Places in Africa and Asia and South and Central America that we don’t hear nearly as much about because they aren’t as “important” to us.”

    I sometimes think they are in a better position without our “help”.

  2. Kevin H says:

    MLD,

    You may be right in that our “help” may sometimes cause more problems than it actually helps.

    But I still get bothered sometimes when thinking about how some horrific massacre or event that occurs in some place like Sudan or Venezuela gets barely a blip on the radar compared to the attention it gets if the same event occurs in Europe or the Middle East.

  3. Josh the Baptist says:

    Song title is actually In Christ Alone.

  4. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Kevin H,
    Our minds we not made to handle this information load. Up until the past 50 years the general population never knew.

    In WWII (that’s the big one you you younger folks) people had to wait a week before the newsreels came overseas to the US and you went to the movies to watch them between the double feature – and that was your dose of world tragedy for the week … a 15 min newsreel,

  5. Kevin H says:

    Josh,

    You’re right. I knew that but must have distractingly written the wrong thing.

    Michael: Can you make the correction of the song title at the end to “In Christ Alone”? Thanks.

  6. Duane Arnold says:

    “So much suffering and so much evil and how do we handle it all?”

    We start with the person at our front door… of our house, of our church, of our business…

  7. Kevin H says:

    MLD,

    I agree that our minds and hearts just can’t handle all the information we get nowadays, especially the bad news. We don’t have the reserves to deeply care about everything and everyone. But it still bothers me sometimes that I and others seemingly care more about some parts of the world than others.

  8. Xenia says:

    I have no idea whatsoever what our country should do in cases like this. I don’t know if we did right or wrong with our recent strikes.

    -Clueless in Seaside

  9. Michael says:

    Kevin,

    I fixed it.
    Good job today putting a lot of our common thoughts online…these things are so complex…

  10. Kevin H says:

    Thanks, Michael.

  11. Xenia says:

    I do know that Christians in Syria would like to keep Assad because he protects the Church there. But you know the saying: He who sups with the Devil had better use a very long spoon.

  12. Josh the Baptist says:

    I pray that those who know more about the situation than I know also are given the wisdom to act.

  13. The New Victor says:

    How many people are aware how much we continue to do things on the ground in Africa? My buddy was deployed last year as support for this base. He couldn’t tell me any specifics, of course, but I figured out where he was deployed. Since he mentioned the country in a phone conversation after he returned.

    Camp Lemonnier is a United States Naval Expeditionary Base,[2] situated at Djibouti’s Djibouti–Ambouli International Airport and home to the Combined Joint Task Force – Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA) of the U.S. Africa Command (USAFRICOM).[3] It is the only permanent US military base in Africa.[4][5] The camp is operated by U.S. Navy Region Europe, Africa, Southwest Asia; CJTF-HOA is the most notable tenant command located at the facility as of 2008. It was established as the primary base in the region for the support of Operation Enduring Freedom – Horn of Africa (OEF-HOA).

  14. Jean says:

    Thanks for writing on this topic Kevin. I’m confounded too.

    The odd thing is that if Assad had killed triple the number of civilians using conventional bombs (even cluster bombs), we probably would not be talking about this here today. But because of the allegation of chemical weapons, it’s a story and we struck Syria. So, in some sense, it’s not the killing per se, but the mode of killing. That’s confounding.

    Then when you examine the retaliation, one would hope that whenever we use military force that within the calculation is the expectation that by our violence, other violence in the future might be reduced. This is so that we are not merely adding to violence, but endeavoring to reduce net violence. Is that a reasonable goal of violence? If it is, did our strike help or hurt that goal?

    Then there’s the issue of evidence of the culprit behind any chemical attack? I have not seen independent evidence. I’m chastened by the failure of the intelligence assessment leading up to the second gulf war on Iraq to blindly follow the intelligence assessments coming out of Washington. Let’s just say it’s a trust issue on my part.

  15. Michael says:

    Jean,

    Well said…

  16. em ... again says:

    when and why did the United States become the savior of the world? …
    we say that we’re “not a Christian nation” and yet it is intriguing that it is standards of the Christian that the rest of the world either wants the U.S. to impose or protests that we’re trying to impose… to spin off of Xenia’s long spoon and paraphrase another’s metaphor, our arms are not long enough to box with the devil…

    we Believers can only follow Dr. Arnold’s advice and pray for souls to be saved and for the Lord to return and fix things… out of context but still a true Truth: “Why don’t you talk to me?” Pilate demanded. “Don’t you realize that I have the power to release you or crucify you?”
    “Then Jesus said, “You would have no power over me at all unless it were given to you from above.”

  17. Kevin H says:

    Jean,

    You raise some good questions and thoughts. Some of those things have rolled around in my head, too. And I don’t know the answers to many of them either.

  18. Kevin H says:

    Em,

    “when and why did the United States become the savior of the world?”

    Well, we have the biggest and strongest military in the world and we spend far more on it than any other nation. So we have positioned ourselves to be the most powerful. And despite the many flaws and corruption in our country and government, we still have enough good motives and carry ourselves more generously compared to most other superpowers in world history. You can add in all kinds of other reasons and elements, but these basic things I have mentioned seem to result in us looking at ourselves as the obligated savior of the world and others throughout the world are sometimes drawn to the same conclusion.

  19. em ... again says:

    theorizing and angst over both the doctrines of the churches and the condition of the world distract us from our life in Christ…
    lately i’ve been mulling the Vine and branches metaphor – we draw our life from Christ Jesus and yet we spend so much energy trying to define how we do that… too much time on the “how” and too little time on “Who” perhaps – what He has created, what He has promised and what He’s done for us … perhaps … dunno

  20. em ... again says:

    Kevin @ 19 … ah yes, precisely that and it is a secular, if well intended delusion … we just can’t pull it off… kind of like the local police on a domestic violence call, perhaps? always a very unpredictable, quicksilver outcome
    now i am not advocating for hunkering down at home, locking the doors and pulling the drapes shut, but, the best we can do is ultimately defensive … spoken as i sit within the target zone of Kim Jong-un (think he’s the one) nuclear strike aspiration … i pray that our missile defense system is in working order
    you asked, “So much suffering and so much evil and how do we handle it all?” isn’t the answer to that: “we can’t handle it all?”
    good post BTW 🙂

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