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  1. Owen says:

    The link “Why God isn’t fair and why that’s fair…”

    Not a popular thing to hear. It’s about God’s generosity, not fairness. And it’s not the way the world works.
    We tell our kids all the time that life is not fair – trying to prepare them now for some of the crap that life is going to throw at them. What matters is how they respond to the seemingly unfair things.

  2. Dallas says:

    The 50th anniversary of Star Trek made me give in to the geekier side of my nature. Science fiction and the projection of sin.

    Captain’s Log or the “Spock” in your brother’s eye

    http://dswoager.wordpress.com/2016/09/11/captains-log-or-the-spock-in-your-brothers-eye/

  3. Michael says:

    Dallas,

    I put it in the body of the article as well.
    My apologies for overlooking it…

  4. Owen says:

    Dallas…
    Wow, interesting insight, I’ve never looked at Star Trek (or any science fiction) that way.
    Although as my son and I get more into the Star Wars canon, we are seeing parallels.

  5. Em ... again says:

    you’re taking me down memory lane here this morning… 1966 our family, from our toddler son on up the line to his dad, sat quiet and engrossed in the tales from the starship Enterprise … every single week … i thought there was always a moral to the tales and i love stories with a lesson or interesting personality interplay – the series had both … i wonder what the children internalized from those more innocent early days of the saga

  6. Dallas says:

    Thanks Michael, no problem.

    Owen, there is a quote that I have been looking for over the last couple weeks (so if anyone wants to help out) about being best able to truly see what a thing is by being far away enough to observe it completely but close enough to still love the thing (or something like that). I think that fiction in general and science fiction and fantasy are wonderful tools in making those observations.

    I have a couple friends who admit that they intentionally read only non fiction as a way of better managing their time, and the reason above is why I so often encourage them otherwise.

  7. Dallas says:

    Em, Star Trek is humanistic pretty much to a fault, so there are definitely some traps there, but I think for the most part it was pointing us to the better parts of our nature.

    There were a few episodes that were laughably heavy handed in Christianity, but at least to my memory nothing overly hostile like you get in some modern SciFi.

  8. Owen says:

    Dallas,

    If your friends are only reading nonfiction I daresay they are missing out, although I can understand wanting to manage their time – I don’t have nearly the time to read I wish I had….my son, on the other hand, reads voraciously – to the point where we have to keep an eye on him when it’s time for chores, as he will often gravitate to a book instead.

    That quote almost sounds like a “God perspective” thing….

  9. Dallas says:

    Yeah, I’m one to talk, I hardly have time to read much of anything. In the past couple months I’ve managed a plethora of children’s books and one chapter of Michael’s recommended “The End of White Christian America” apart from reading scripture. It’s not a terrible diet, but less robust than I am used to.

  10. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    for “the monster we created link” … reminds me of a bunch of blogging I’ve done this year about Jacques Ellul’s writing on propaganda and what can happen when a church explicitly embraces modern mass media propaganda methods. I know, broken record on that issue but when I look at this election cycle and how people behave and how people have behaved defending their loyalty brands within church contexts it really seems like Ellul’s warnings were troubling apropos of both spheres.

  11. Steve Wright says:

    Does this sound familiar, Michael? Wenatchee?

    A small handful of bloggers spend months relentlessly pursuing and reporting on the truth behind someone who is a hero to many. Asking the questions the rest of the media refuse to ask. They are unknown to the masses, and those who do hear about them are quick to dismiss them as “haters” and “gossipers” – or play guilt by association by lumping them in with the crackpots out there.

    As the truth begins to drip out a few begin to share these blog reports and ask the same hard questions and these new sharers are quickly marginalized and rebuked, even threatened (and in a couple cases, terminated).

    Finally, the dam breaks, and the truth comes flooding out making all the mainstream media who then either a) is angry at being played like a fool or b) continue to obfuscate, deflect, and cover for their hero

    America will not survive without a free press. A press that cares about truth before picking sides. If anyone ever wonders why someone like me continues to support Michael and his work here, it is because that we need those who will seek out and support the truth. And Michael has shown a responsibility in that work in what he reports. (Same to my knowledge with WtH)

    What has happened the last 72 hours that is worldwide news in the political arena is no surprise, and has been played out many times in many ways in the niche world of evangelicalism at this blog and elsewhere.

  12. bob1 says:

    “Americans view pastors political endorsements as inappropriate…”

    I know if my pastor were to endorse Trump from the pulpit, I’d leave. Even if he told me privately, it would be a game changer.

    But it’s not appropro for a pastor to endorse anyone from the pulpit!

  13. Babylon's Dread says:

    By the time they start jailing pastors the public will applaud it. To begin such a thing in MA would of course be seen as ironic justice. The witch trials in reverse only this time meted out to the guilty. Much more of this to come

  14. Babylon's Dread says:

    You mean there are people that worship God with no expression of emotion?

  15. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Isn’t stoic and emotion? 😉

  16. Dallas says:

    My wife has been working in nursing homes and with hospice companies since we first met, so the blurb on transforming the nursing home was interesting. There seems to be a slow moving but significant movement to reform nursing home environments, from the sterile hospital-like facilities that are common now toward more community living homes. It will be interesting to see what types of strategies see wide implementation.

  17. Dallas says:

    Oh, and I didn’t have time to really look it up myself, but is this code orange thing something that has been around for awhile, and perhaps packaged as some sort of curriculum of something? I really think that I remember my cousin sporting some “code orange” merch from some program her church was running a couple years ago.

  18. Owen says:

    Dallas,

    Code Orange comes from Elevation Church, with several locations in North Carolina. Started by Pastor Steve Furtick. Their website tells what they believe,etc, if you click past the feel-good looking header pages……

    The code orange revival is touted as “ten days of life-changing worship and world-class preaching.” I watched the promo video, which basically just shows a teen being drawn into hip-hop dance moves, and shows exactly nothing about what it’s all about.

    That’s as far as I looked into it.

  19. Owen says:

    Oh, and the revival features a number of special guest speakers , the only one I recognized being Joyce Meyer.

  20. Owen says:

    Dallas,
    I spent a couple years working maintenance at a nursing home some time back – the one I worked at had both settings, actually, The bulk of it was more community-living oriented, but they also had a good-sized hospital wing for those who needed it. This was in Spokane, WA.

  21. Dallas says:

    Owen, I saw that much of it, but it looked like it was something other than a one time thing. Oh well, I can check later.

    It does seem like things are a little more progressive on the west coast, and so far as my wife has said there are a lot of roadblocks to moving that way in Pennsylvania. It’s good to know that there are movements in that direction at all. I have spent enough time in nursing homes to know that they are not generally places that you would want to spend a lot of time.

  22. Owen says:

    Is this what you saw?

    http://elevationchurch.online

    They do have a lot of different links for the same keywords, they do a fine job of google-bombing.

    I got to know several residents who had been there (the nursing home) for many years – none were especially happy still living there. The biggest problem seemed to be lack of family involvment.

  23. Dallas says:

    It was, I thought that I also saw some older videos in the Google search as well, that made it seem like it was something that had been an event previously. Very possible that my memory is just faulty… it definitely had something to do with the color orange.

  24. Owen says:

    It seems like it’s an every-four-years thing – they had one in 2012 as well, and that comes up in the searches.

  25. Al says:

    From a link above (SMH, Christian Evangelicals trying to Logic is like white people trying to dance and sing rap music. Don’t.)

    “The logic goes something like this (stay with me): time is transitory but God is not, therefore God cannot exist within time, therefore God exists outside of time, therefore time is a separate creation apart from God, and therefore God simultaneously knows all past, present and future events in one eternal moment. This Greek line of thinking captures the dominant view of most Christians throughout history and yet today. But what if the Greek view of time that leads to this conception of God is mistaken? I encourage you to try to suspend the Greek view for a moment to consider the Hebrew (and biblical) view of time.”

    Please read Stephen Hawking’s “A Brief History of Time” which I link for you here: http://www.fisica.net/relatividade/stephen_hawking_a_brief_history_of_time.pdf

    Then read “M Theory: The Mother of all Super Strings” by Michio Kaku: http://mkaku.org/home/articles/m-theory-the-mother-of-all-superstrings/

    Let’s suspend both Greek and Hebrew in lieu of what we can actually observe through Science and Mathematics and Theoretical Physics.

  26. Al says:

    Regarding the stupid time argument above:

    God “is”. “I am”.

    Simple, yet profound.

  27. Al says:

    Throckmorton’s David Barton link and article is classic! Love it.

    You are not going to get any B.S. by old Warren LOL. Well done.

    Warren, I just wish I could convince you to focus your talents on Calvary Chapel and Hillary Clinton 🙂

  28. Josh the Baptist says:

    Code orange revival is Furtick’s yearly revival services here in Charlotte. He generally brings in 6 or 7 of his big name preacher buddies.

    Orange is an unrelated youth and children’s curriculum.

  29. Dallas says:

    Thank you Josh, just a thought that got caught in my head yesterday.

  30. Al says:

    I hope a house lands on Furtick. Modern day Pharisee and Money-changer. Disgusting.

  31. victorious says:

    Timothy Tennent’s address on homiletical theology is holy and hope filled in a world of shallow haughtiness .

    http://timothytennent.com/2016/09/13/my-2016-opening-convocation-address-homiletical-theology/

  32. Josh the Baptist says:

    Al, a 16,000 sq ft house did land on Furtick.

  33. Al says:

    Josh the Baptist,

    LOL on the Furtick comment.

    Out of respect for Michael, I will refrain from commenting on Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel on his blog b/c the passive aggressives that comment here (some of you) egg me on out of bad motives (that was for you Gene LOL) and it distracts from what Michael is trying to do. I have my own blog, as I’ve been reminded many times.

    Here’s an article on my blog if Gene or others want to attack me and judge me and question my motives over there.

    http://calvarychapelabuse.com/wordpress/yes-chuck-smith-had-an-affair/

  34. Al says:

    One of the best articles I’ve ever written…the Holy Spirit just flowed right through. The Truth is truly like a sword.

  35. Em ... again says:

    #33-i accepted the invitation and read what is linked – yes, it is well written, thought provoking – worth the time to read and be reminded of some rather serious traps – traps that are and have been always there it seems

    that said, there is a need to clarify that the root of the problem is not the sinner (most likely forgiven) – even though it might be necessary to document the frailty to make the point, the problem is us… all those folk who put a teacher or any other idol up there on a pedestal of superiority – especially someone who is supposedly purposed with focusing our love and understanding on our Creator God

    FWIW – i apologize for participating in yesterday’s undisciplined banter – glad to see Michael firm and resolved and in control here

  36. ( |o )====::: says:

    Al,
    I was never comfortable with the Charismatic Movement’s idea of “anointing”, especially “special anointing”. As a musician and artist I used to think preaching, healing, leadership, teaching, compassion, empathy, art & music were “gifts” poured out on individuals for “special service” within the church.

    Now… I realize that they are cross cultural human-life-skills, that can be taught, learned, improved upon, and used for good or not-so-good. There’s no less responsibility to use skills from and with love, not for power.*

    Thanks for continuing to be courageous, and for continuing to consider Jesus (as we’ve discussed many times), as we know Him from The4Gospels.

    -g
    (*edited)

  37. Babylon's Dread says:

    Accusations against a person living or dead should be sourced with witnesses. Otherwise it is just furthering a rumor. Two witnesses is the standard of scripture.

  38. Al says:

    More than two. Watergate’s sources were protected. Calvary Chapel is lawsuit happy.

  39. Al says:

    God’s Kingdom is all that matters. Calvary Chapel uses the legal system to whatever advantage it can get. They argued they had “Ecclesiastical Hierarchy” before a Judge in Tucson when it suited them weaseling out of a legal matter….then argued the EXACT OPPOSITE in front of an Idaho Judge to get out of having to pay victims of child molestation up there.

    Very sinister liars. They hurt child abuse victims in Idaho by their lying. God doesn’t like that, I’m pretty sure.

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