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  1. bob1 says:


    I think one thing he has in common with the Charisma crowd and his former church:

    Both appear to be groups/individuals that spiritually abuse others…

  2. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    My current church had no “patriotic” service – just the regular stuff and go home.

    My former church does it the right way (IMO) – after church we have the church picnic, which also serves as the 4th of July picnic – it’s the same weekend each year.
    After the picnic, fun and games etc, we gather in the sanctuary for a patriotic 4th sing for about 90 min.

    Also, this same church for about the 20th year enters a float (a decorated stake truck) in the city 4th of July parade. Each year we are the only church to participate. A good time is had by all.

  3. Jim says:

    My first experience in “church leadership” was at an AoG church in 1992. I found myself elected to the deacon board, which were essentially ruling elders. At the members meeting where I was voted in, I asked for a recount…

    At my first board meeting, a deacon expressed concern that the pastor had removed the American flag and the “Christian” flag from the stage, and replaced them with plants. After some discussion, he moved to have the flags returned to the stage. My indifference led to my abstaining from the vote (cowardly, I know. I thought that the pastor was able to vote), and the motion carried.

    The church split four years later…

  4. Eric says:

    The Catholic archbishop here has been sentenced to a year of home detention for not acting on reports of child abuse earlier in his career.

  5. Babylon’s Dread says:

    Maybe the saddest linkathon ever. How far we have fallen!

    Woe, Woe, Woe Dread

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