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  1. Jtk says:

    “Reject all esoteric Hebraisms”

    Yeah, Michael!

    Leading the charge with gusto.

    Should I burn a Hagee book/Cahn book Sunday night when I take my family out to watch the beauty of the eclipse?

    ….provided the earth doesn’t implode just before that, of course….

  2. Michael says:

    JTK,

    Burn them all and roast marshmallows while you watch… πŸ™‚

  3. EricL says:

    I have dealt with Judaizers for nearly two decades now. There was a group I encountered while in college that attracted some of my younger friends. At first, the Judaizers considered me the tool of Satan because I stood up against them, but I wasn’t about to see more of my friends lured into this trap of legalism. Over time, most of them came to understand my heart and, for a few years, about a dozen of them attended a weekly Bible study I lead. Every week they heard about God’s grace and His desire to free us.

    I’m still in contact with many of them and thankful to see that some have given up on this nonsense- though it still lingers in many pernicious ways, causing folks to doubt their freedom in Christ.

    That saddest part, though, is the one couple who kept pressing in on this stuff and who eventually converted to orthodox Judaism, renouncing Christ.

    Yeah- this stuff can lure folks into all sorts of odd beliefs and legalistic bonds.

  4. Michael says:

    EricL,

    There is this desire in all of us to think we know better than others.
    It’s a stench and I smell it leaking from my own pores at times.
    You nailed the dangers of this foolishness well…

  5. Josh the Baptist says:

    Jesus is better! Yes! And that is what the book of Hebrews is all about, too!

    The Pope accepts a title and position that no man can hold. The only time I could respect a pope is if he denounced the papacy itself.

  6. Michael says:

    Josh,

    You receive 2 amens. πŸ™‚

  7. Babylon's Dread says:

    Can we just bag the false biblical euphemisms and say there will be a lunar eclipse?

  8. Michael says:

    BD,

    How the hell can we sell that? πŸ™‚

  9. Babylon's Dread says:

    I ignored this bull$hit for a couple years and now it is breaking out in my church … well in the fringes… so young people and new believers and others are coming and asking about it. So I am speaking up some.

    However Michael with this year being a Jubilee we have not nearly heard all that we will about the shemitah prophecy. I did however have people directly tell me that 13-15 September would be an economic collapse.

    Didn’t work out. However I am thinking of buying a gun to defend myself against these nut-cases. Do I have the right to own a thermonuclear device?

  10. Michael says:

    BD,

    Blow them asunder with your words…

  11. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    There is no such thing as a jubilee year. All those things ended with Jesus and anyone who keeps trying to revive them are actually denying Jesus.

    This is not rocket science. Christianity is in no way a part of or an offshoot of today’s Judaism.A Christianized version of Judaism is no more Christian than being a Hindu.

  12. Em says:

    “This is not rocket science. Christianity is in no way a part of or an offshoot of today’s Judaism.A Christianized version of Judaism is no more Christian than being a Hindu.”

    i think there may be a trend here … avoid “Christianizes” of all stripes πŸ™‚

    perhaps, because the O.T. is a history of God’s interaction with one segment of humanity – the only interaction that we can trust as an authentic record – Believers are confused as to what place to give that record? i am one of the ones who think that God still has unfinished business to conclude with that gene pool, but i also believe that our role is to simply pray for them to come to Jesus THE Christ, the only hope of redemption

  13. Em says:

    ahem… make that avoid “Christianizers” dunno where my ‘r’ went …?…

  14. Em says:

    i “went” to mass yesterday… felt guilty leaving in the middle… quite a show and i am sure many Redeemed ones were in that crowd … i won’t presume to know from the front to the back who has accepted Christ according to God’s standard for doing so …

    2 things struck me… there was a heck of a lot of white garments and the other was how many people, not of “faith” were moved by the proceedings – makes one realize how emotionally vulnerable the human race really is

    (it was a really long show)

  15. Seraphim says:

    One thing about this Pope, is that it seems a lot of people are really interested in all things “spiritual” I am hearing lots of non Christians from all stripes (especially liberal), really enjoying this Pope.

    Some of them are even saying they want to have some form of “spirituality” again. I’m hearing lots of athiest, and others very receptive to his message.

    So my question is this… Is this new Pope a good thing?

    Or is it possible that this is a set up for the end times “spiritual sounding” religion that will come. As a disclaimer, I am not claiming that the End Times are upon us just yet.

    I am just wondering if the reception of this Pope is a foreshadow of things to come with a future false prophet. I can’t say for sure either way. I am just wondering out loud here.

  16. Michael says:

    I just don’t attribute current news to end times prophecy…I just don’t.

    This pope says some wonderful things…but so did Snoopy.

  17. Dan from Georgia says:

    Yahoo! for you Michael on the first segment of this post! I am SICK and TIRED of it too! Unfortunately, those who BUY into this stuff will not get it and repent. I have a co-worker who obsesses over this stuff and nobody I work with dares confront her because her mind is made up and is highly argumentative.

  18. Dan from Georgia says:

    BTW, didn’t God command the death to false prophets in the OT?

  19. Dan from Georgia says:

    No, that wasn’t a threat against anyone (my previous comment).

  20. Jean says:

    Human beings are worshipful beings. The problem with humans is that they don’t want Him where He has promised Himself. So they become idolators.

  21. Michael says:

    Dan,

    Once they buy into it, it becomes all or nothing.
    To reject it as nonsense means that the one who taught them is spouting nonsense…and that gets back to the idolatry that Jean references above.

  22. Em says:

    good blog post again, Michael… i try to follow Mary’s example where prophesies are concerned… just keep them in my heart/mind and ponder… and remember that they weren’t given for soothsaying, but to explain and reassure those who find themselves in the midst of their fulfillment – actual fulfillment, not for speculative exploitation…
    it is so hard to let the future just unfold as it will –
    of all the end times prophesies and warnings in scripture, do any of them tell the Church to take action? … i think i agree with MLD that some of our Lord’s warnings were to the Jews to whom He was speaking … but i don’t think that all His predictions were for that first 100 or so years … what i can’t recall is any special instructions for the Church to take action specific to the end…

    if someone puts their hand on the rail and says they feel a train coming, i guess my put would be, “let go of the rail and get off the track.” πŸ™‚

  23. Pastor Al says:

    Good stuff Miguel.

  24. Paige says:

    Love how you think my friend! Ha….

    I totally busted out laughing at the mention of Snoopy. hahahah

    Did I actually see beloved pastor BD us a ‘four letter’ word here?? Now I know he’s the real deal.

    My first 40 years of being a Christian were steeped in ‘end times’ “Bible Studies’ and the Book of Revelation….. It’s been hard to let that go and not see “Bible prophesy” in the news. The older I get, the more I think about my own “end times” as more and more of my compatriots leave this life for “the other side”.

    I’ll stick with cat videos.

  25. Rick says:

    I just shared this on Facebook. Most of the time when I share a post from here I lose a couple of old CC friends. But you know, the Truth shall set you free.

  26. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    So I was reading the Stephen Strang article and since he mentioned Yom Kippur – did the Jews that went to synagogue yesterday get any closer to God than the Muslims who stampeded to Hajj?
    Wouldn’t they both have been just as effective to go to a park and sit in front of a totem pole?

    btw, Martin Luther and the reformers were right, the anti christ will come out of the papacy.

  27. Jean says:

    MLD, you equal opportunity hater, you; don’t unhinge yourself from Scripture after doing such a good job at pointing to it.

  28. Jean,
    Why would anyone even think of let alone bring up hate? I state the reality to those who want to give Jews one foot into the kingdom just for being Jews. See, I would never say those things to my Jewish, Muslim or Eskimo friends – they are free to worship in any way they wish and I would never try to stop them.

    But as I have pointed out in the Hebrews study, when the writer talks about the superiority of Jesus to whatever he is comparing to – he is not leaving it open that the 2nd place thing is an option – not even a lesser option. He is laying out that it is Jesus or nothing.

    So, when Christians speak of Jesus and someone brings up Yom Kippur as if that is some God pleasing Jewish act, I say it is a rejection of Jesus no less than stampeding Hajj revelers.

    Jesus is not #1 – he is the only one. πŸ™‚

  29. Surfer51 says:

    I will comment anyway.

    Good on you Pastor Steve Wright!

  30. brian says:

    Hagee and group did accomplish two things that are critical and at the very top of the list, they scared people which helps maintain a downline clientele and by far at the very top of any list. They made money$$. All the other nonsense is totally irrelevant.

  31. Dan from Georgia says:

    Michael, I just clicked on the Stephen Strang/Charisma link and perused some of the comments to the linked article. Apparently there is some hope out there that some people can easily see thru the garbage that Charisma is publishing. Most of the comments were strongly in the camp of “this stuff is wacked-out garbage and Charisma is wacked-out for promoting such foolishness”. Unfortunately, many of these comments were responded to by a bunch of mindless tools defending this crap.

  32. Michael says:

    Dan,

    We can only hope…

  33. brian says:

    I use to watch sid Roth and shows like that because, to my shame, was praying for physical and mental healing for the people I was working with at the time. I have come to learn that the very last thing a person who follows the Transcendent All-Powerful God of the universe is anything supernatural. But at the time I really wanted to see people healed, I am sort of convinced that was sin and presumption of God. I just dont get why all this supernatural stuff happens to all these other folks, I dont expect it to happen to me, I am fairly sure I dont want it to as the price is too high, but that is another post. I dont get why it does not happen to folks I have known?

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