Moratorium On Politics

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36 Responses

  1. Dan from Georgia says:

    Thanks Michael…breath of fresh air!

  2. Jean says:

    On board.

  3. Michael says:

    I do not want to create a place where people are too angry to learn from our Bible studies or ask if in need of prayer.
    I’m a Christian before any other identity and I’m called to serve on the basis of fellowship in Christ, not voter registration.
    The election will come and go…we need to focus on things eternal.

  4. Babylon's Dread says:

    I think we have just been set in a garden with a forbidden tree πŸ˜‰

    Eat and Die Dread

  5. Owen says:

    BD – resist the serpent!! πŸ˜‰

  6. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Today’s politics are no different. In the past whole Church bodies (not just local churches) have split over politics. I will honor a moratorium but I think we are turning into a bunch of sissies.

  7. Jean says:

    “BD – resist the serpent!!”

    For the sake of our Koinonia.

  8. Jean says:

    “I will honor a moratorium but I think we are turning into a bunch of sissies.”

    MLD,

    The problem is when, as occurred a few days ago, one person judges anyone who votes for that person’s candidate’s opponent as “brainless.” The conversation jumps the shark from talking about politics or politicians to insults hurled among us. Not everyone has your reptilian skin. πŸ™‚

  9. Michael says:

    Only Dread… he’s probably right.
    “Not everyone has your reptilian skin. πŸ™‚”
    That was rich…

    I’m doing this to protect us and more than anyone else,me.
    When I read about taking away federal protection for national parks and “privatizing” them I was half way to Crater Lake with loaded weapons and dynamite before I was able to get a hold of myself…

  10. Papias says:

    A moratorium on political discussion during the election? I wish my TV would do the same with all the political ads….

    I wouldn’t expect the enforcement of the moratorium to turn into the Spanish Inquisition…

  11. Paige says:

    Amen. IMO, it’s all straight up bovine waste anyhow.
    I don’t have the energy to spare… and won’t jeopardize friendships over politics.

    However, will continue to pray Thy Kingdom come, on earth as it is in Heaven”.
    I’m with the Kingdom party… and His Kingdom is not of this world.

    (ps I will vote, tho think it’s a sham, but won’t ever tell anyone who I vote for).

  12. Em ... again says:

    here’s another vote for the moratorium …
    Jean. says, “The problem is when, as occurred a few days ago, one person judges anyone who votes for that person’s candidate’s opponent as β€œbrainless.” The conversation jumps the shark from talking about politics or politicians to insults hurled among us.”
    (and you’re only guessing as to who “my” candidate might be)
    and therein is the proof of the wisdom and justification for the edict… there’s no humor allowed … or crying… πŸ™‚

  13. Rick says:

    I appreciate your stance here, Michael. I learned, a little, anyway, how to live in exile (or perhaps as a part of a remnant), while in the military a generation ago. Build community with those on your right and left, those who are in close proximity (though the Internet brings many more into our circle than we ever thought possible). Build bridges with our neighbors irrespective of their political views; not everything has to be about politics.

  14. nathan priddis says:

    A moratorium will be problematic. Evangelicalism has as it’s reason for existence, the influencing of society. It is the follow-on of the Fundamentalist battles of the early 1900’s, which also sought a Christian society.

    Evangelicalism and politics are like plastic after a house fire. It just blends together, and is not easily separated, or even distinguishable.

    In the world but not of it, is no longer true in Evangelicalism. It is in the world, and of the world.

  15. Michael says:

    nathan,

    It’s not problematic at all, this blog is a dictatorship. πŸ™‚

  16. Em ... again says:

    as i’ve remarked before, i hate labels… there are wonderful, God fearing and gracious folk who are Evangelical affiliated and fundamentalist affiliated, also

    we need, perhaps, to stop letting the secular press provide us with our definitions… much better to say ‘compromising, secular bent’ and ‘non-compromising, mindlessly legalistic bent’ … come to think of it, how can one be that evil Evangelical and a Fundy at the same time? LOL

    i am not trying to be a rabble rouser, nor insulting to anyone’s stand… i just wonder if there are better ways to express oneself without generalizing labels? maybe not… dunno πŸ™‚

  17. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Em, so we do not let the ‘seculars’ define an evangelical – can you take a stab at it? just what is an evangelical today?
    If you were to say “I am an evangelical” what would you be saying?

  18. Babylon's Dread says:

    What a surprise!!!

    This thread has been managed without closing the comments.

    Augustine/Calvin would be aghast.

    Original Sin Dread

  19. Dan from Georgia says:

    My dad became a believer very shortly before he died…a deathbed conversion so to speak…and one thing I told my dad that I believe helped him see Christ, is that not only does it not matter what you have ever done in life, but it also doesn’t matter who you ever voted for in this life, that will keep you from Christ (or Christ from you). I believe he came to faith shortly before passing away, and I am unashamed that I told him that politics don’t matter in the end.

  20. Em ... again says:

    ahh, MLD, that is my point – i do not think labels are a very good way to define us … you and i both answer to God and believe that Jesus Christ’s finished work on the cross is our only hope of redemption – Jesus the Christ, crucified, resurrected, ascended to the Father, in whose presence He now sits as our advocate with the Father, our great High Priest and returning King
    at least i think that defines both of us… but oh how we differ on other doctrines πŸ™‚

    my label would be Born Again… but that wouldn’t work for you, would it?
    i appreciate the honest repartee, but i am determining to let all those doctrines lie for a while – let God the Holy Spirit guide – as in John 16:14 – perhaps

    God keep

  21. Em, if you don’t wear the label ‘evangelical’ (and I sure don’t), why would you care how the seculars describe evangelicals?

  22. This could be adding fuel to the flames but a choice like this is not making me want to become a citizen anytime soon!

  23. Em ... again says:

    MLD! ! ! i don’t care how the seculars label things… what i said was… “we need, perhaps, to stop letting the secular press provide us with our definitions” πŸ™‚

    enough of this small (very small) talk, eh?

  24. Em ... again says:

    William, it is safe here, will you take out citizenship, if i shut up? if you say “yes,” to that proposition, i promise to uphold my end and we will make many folk here very happy, i think πŸ™‚

    dunno, tho … do i?

  25. Owen says:

    Em, I hope you don’t shut up completely, I for one enjoy your participation.

  26. Captain Kevin says:

    Good call, Michael.

  27. Al says:

    Very wise.

    Two Kingdoms.

    This space is the more important Kingdom, the one where Jesus is important.

  28. Scott says:

    “Brainless” is name calling? I’ve seen worse than that here over the years πŸ˜‰

    Good luck on the moratorium for your sake, Michael.

  29. Jean says:

    Discussion is more fruitful and enjoyable when arguments are made in rem, rather than ad hominem.

  30. Em please do not shut up! I am Scottish not a dictator! I am fortunate in that I am allowed to live here in freedom and I am allowed to work as an immigrant without restriction. This is still a great country but I do wish the choice of leader was better. I lean towards the Republican side and both guys I wanted to get the nod failed in their bids. I am not bitter but I believe that both Rubio and Cruz would have made better candidates and fear for what the GOP is doing to itself and I think that it may give the DNC the White House if they don’t start looking like they are on the same side. That is my opinion for what it is worth.

    As stated above this is all temporary and I do wish that politics was not such a religion but we have people defending their position with all the fervour of the most ardent “kool aid sipping cult member”.

  31. Em ... again says:

    i smile because i thought it was rather clever to conclude that there was a candidate for whom no one using their left brain could vote and no one their right mind could vote and therefore only folks who had lost total function of their brain matter would vote for that person… even tho i do think that about the one candidate, did not mean an endorsement for the other (main) candidate… and to have offended some delicate soul? well, forgive me, Father, for i have sinned – i am not a teacher James 3:1-2

    actually, i do sincerely apologize to anyone who felt a personal blow from that comment that has caused our Jean to take umbrage (again)

    ahh, William, i too, am of Scottish heritage (1/2 of me) … i have 2 grandchildren who have been known to put on kilts and dance around – and the bagpipes? i am a proud descendent of the “ladies from hell”
    the romance of yesteryear πŸ™‚

  32. Jean says:

    “actually, i do sincerely apologize to anyone who felt a personal blow from that comment that has caused our Jean to take umbrage (again)”

    That’s not an apology. If you sin against your neighbor, then apologize. If you didn’t then don’t.

  33. Em ... again says:

    #29-Jean is correct, personal attacks have no place in these comments… however, i reserve the right to go off topic whenever i strikes my fancy… rems are for lawyers and other debaters…
    but come to think of it so are ad hominems… and ad hocs (unless it is God speaking)

  34. Em ... again says:

    #32 -Jean, i think that my #31 was an apology… as you have pointed out up there somewhere in the thread i may have, unbeknownst to me, offended some souls (saved or otherwise) …

    if it was just a sin with no landing place? then i’ve asked God to forgive me, because… “all sins are ultimately against Him” … i read that somewhere here

    don’t make me angry as there is nothing more formidable than an angry Scot, unless it is an angry Swede and that’s the other half of me…

    i hope you will feel that you have done your duty in teaching now and let the matter rest – i site (here) corrected and i will watch my flippancy … for a while anyway … and then you can correct me again when i fall back into my besetting sin

    God keep – truly, God keep

  35. surfer51 says:

    Politics.

    When you think that you are right, you could be wrong…

    When you think that you are wrong, you could be right…

    Things are never what they at first appear to be.

    Same often applies to our “biblical knowledge.

    Acts 17:11
    These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    Black and white was not what Jesus modeled/exemplified.when relating with others.

    Politics is decisive by it’s very nature.

    I have been accused of being one way or the other because I try very hard to steer clear of politics on my blog.

    I have been told that because I don’t oppose this side or that, politically, then I must be in favor of this side or that side.

    Jesus was treated the same way you know…

    http://shekinahfellowship.blogspot.com/2016/07/reality-check-christian.html

  36. John S says:

    Good thinking, Michael. God wants us to build bridges to others who are not Christian. To those who are Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, agnostic. To our friends who say “Evolution is bogus. Maybe aliens planted life on earth …”

    How can we do that when we can’t even build bridges with other Christians, just because they support a different political party than we do?

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