New Problems For Potters Field

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  1. Paige says:

    Wow. I KNEW there had to be something much worse behind the scenes going on beyond the horrendous verbal and slavery abuse, as if that wasn’t bad enough…

    As sickening as this is, it’s actually somewhat gratifying (to me) to see darkness like this exposed and investigated by agencies OUTSIDE of the church, particularly a system that has been so ‘good’ at coverups for a very long time..

    If only there was forth coming communication from the big churches that have been closely associated with this disaster., such as the one locally here that we were formerly involved with. …. tip of the iceberg.

    I feel like we’ve been dealing with the Mob.
    It seems this system has forgotten that The Savior, Whose Name, they use, is full of Grace AND Truth. We’ve seen a lot of ‘grace’ for certain parties, but Truth has been sorely ignored… .. The All Mighty as seen all of it.

  2. Jerod says:

    It’s so quiet, you just heard the other shoe drop.

  3. Jerod says:

    These are lawyers that have been hired by the alleged victims, yes? “Alleged” just so I’m not libelous…

  4. Jerod says:

    Sorry for the three-peat, but was PFM fully supporting missionaries in the international field and have any of them spoken up?

  5. Michael says:

    Jerod,

    They mostly used interns for that work, although there are people in the field now waiting to get home.
    We have testimonies from all the various PFM ministries…

  6. Steve says:

    Paige, unfortunately the large churches that probably know the most about PFM are Calvary Chapels that have partnered with the Rozells for years. CCA dropped PFM like a lead balloon and washed their hands clean of their involvement when they saw this train wreck coming. Actually it’s a good thing but I think some of these lawyers are going to need to petition the judges to supena these big wig pastor’s to get them all under oath till they get to the bottom of this and other crimes.. too much hiding behind the non denominational denomination in my opinion.

  7. Jeff Sheckstein says:

    Yep. I’m with you Steve. We need to supini them bigwigs to get to the bottom of this. You can sure count on ‘dem lawyers to clean up this mess and CC.

  8. Michael says:

    Let’s get something clear.
    No one wants justice for these young people more than I do.

    However…all this raging against “Calvary Chapel” (an entity that simply doesn’t exist anymore) is actually a distraction from that goal.

    CGN and the CCA are simply shell corporations.
    The name “Calvary Chapel” is owned by a church, Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa.

    Judges don’t willy nilly subpoena people to appear in imaginary cases that haven’t been filed, or in cases where they have little to no involvement.

    The reason I have stressed an audit so much is that barring a case of sexual assault, the main legal risks to the Rozells would potentially be their financial dealings.

    We have to deal with these matters rationally or we lose our credibility in this story and the stories to come.

  9. Michael says:

    Good morning, Sheck… we were typing at the same time.

  10. Jeff Sheckstein says:

    Folks/Steve. I’ll give you this. What we really can pray for is that the state attorney general’s office will actually invest some resources to investigate this ministry. I have yet to see such action taken anywhere at anytime except when I left a cult I lived in called Synanon. Apart from likely violations of state labor laws, there may yet be issues with compliance with workers compensation laws and representations, and issues such as misappropriation of funds need to be looked at to insure financial integrity; hence Michael’s desire for a fully independent audit, not mere review of that ministry’s finances.

    Lastly, it would be great if either voluntarily or otherwise, all funds were mandated to be held in a court monitored escrow account so that any and all insurance proceeds and other ministry funds could be available to victims when claims are proven.

    Regrettably my experience says otherwise. But God…

  11. Michael says:

    Sheck,

    I fully concur.
    We’re closer to something approximating justice than at anytime since I started this blog…and I have to believe that it’s God indeed…

  12. Will Whosoever says:

    To be honest, I hope Don McClure is implicated as well. It would be a grave injustice to see him ‘escape the fire’ as he was complicit in so many ways. He was deeply involved from 2003~Dec. 2018, so how could he not be a part of the very culture and the the operation there? (Lead teacher, visionary, raised financial support, et al.) It would be wrong to have the burden of blame rest completely upon the Rozell’s. I have heard so many CC pastors say that McClure is ‘bullet-proof.” May it not be so.

  13. Duane Arnold says:

    Michael

    Well done. If a thorough outside audit is done along with forensic accounting, third parties will be indicated in the results, including agents, vendors, etc. It may well be the only way that the real story of the last two decades may be known…

  14. Michael says:

    Duane,

    Thank you.
    Short of some other crime we are yet unaware of, I think it’s the only way.

  15. Jeff Sheckstein says:

    Wow Will.

    I sure hope God never allows you to be placed in a position where the court of public opinion prejudges you based on social media allegations like you have just done here. Were you one of those hunting Justice Kavanuagh down as well? I do believe due process in this country still embraces a presumption of innocence must less the mandates set forth in Scripture.

    I worked for Pastor Chuck for eleven years and I guess under your idea of a legal system, I should be locked up merely based upon my association with Chuck’s and other ministries I associated/associate with.

    Could you share names as to those CC pastors who say Don is “bullet-proof”? Of course, any logical and rational person would embrace any pastor’s legal opinion based upon their solid educational foundation, especially as to the law.

    I’m out. I can’t take this anymore.

    Blessings

  16. Will Whosoever says:

    Jeff, I apologize, but I don’t really care how many years you ‘worked’ for Chuck. I was there triple the amount of time you were. Big deal. Your opinion really is irrelevant to the facts of McClure’s involvement at Potter’s Field.

  17. Steph says:

    It’s tough to stay on track and focus on the “task at hand”. Luckily, we have the Montana officials to do that work. My prayer is that the entire Pottersfield situation is uncovered, that no one even slightly responsible escapes justice. I hope every child, teen, and adult that was harmed in any way can find exactly what they need in order to heal completely.

    That being said, a Calvary Chapel can of worms has been opened and that’s always encouraging for those of us that have been hurt by that organization. The local CC that I attended for 20 years was a huge supporter of Pottersfield for many years. They had interns come back and tell it all. They’ve also had major red flags when the Rozells counciled people within the congregation. THE PASTOR KNEW. This is potentially just the beginning of a brand new reality for Calvary Chapel, the “non-united” world wide organization.

    Thanks, Michael for this blog and for continuing to do this the correct way.

  18. Michael says:

    Thank you, Steph!

  19. JD says:

    I was “adopted” by a Sicilian at the age of forty-two. They treat you better than this mob.

  20. Midwife says:

    When a “pastor” is asking about your private sexual experiences as reported by numerous interns here on the blog, I expect to hear that there was abundant sexual abuse also. I lived through two Christian Cults that suffered from sexual abuse. Once a ray of light cracks through the sexual sin, a flood of light pours in on the sickening reality of the complete story. I believe this will happen.

  21. Bene D says:

    Two law firms teaming up and speaking out will help light a fire under any appropriate state agencies.
    Media involvement will also keep the light on.

    Are Montana state employees and the lawyers, involved pastors and board members obligated to report allegations of sexual harassment and abuse to police?

    When McCoy talks about the mission field, needy children, and the missionaries who are stuck in the field, what is he talking about?

    Are these PFM employees? Church sponsored missionaries? Interns? How many?
    What countries?

    (If the missionaries are church sponsored, I would think the churches involved can afford to get them back to the U.S.)
    This is where it’s confusing.

    And given some of the stories we’ve read about donors being duped with fake letters, and no kids in the field, how many children were being helped, and are currently being helped?

    McCoy is focused on keeping these ‘mission fields’ and donor base going, but it really isn’t clear why.

  22. Bene D says:

    Given the old board is still in place until liquidation it’s good to hear these law firms are interested.

    The fact these male board members and Mrs. Rozell are still involved has to be scary for former PFM’ers.

    At least the law firms are a safe place to report – the Rozells and their cronies can’t retaliate.

  23. Steve says:

    THE PASTOR KNEW.
    _————-_——————————

    Yep Steph and that is why they need to be issued a supoena. Get them on record for once.

  24. Michael says:

    Who is supposed to issue this subpoena?
    Which court for which trial?…as I’m unaware of any legal proceedings at this time.
    Can I issue one?

  25. Steve says:

    So two law firms are looking into this and there are allegations of sexual harassment and sexual assault yet there is no legal proceedings to find the truth? Something sounds off. A judge will issue a supeona when there is probably cause and when a witness in this case a pastor may know something.

  26. Michael says:

    Steve,

    That’s not how the law works.
    A complaint must be filed first.
    To my knowledge , no one has done so.

  27. Steve says:

    My prayer: May those who have been violated and abused find the strength and courage to formally seek justice if it’s warranted as the Lord leads. The court of social media is no substitute for the law.

  28. Thatsenoughcrazy says:

    I agree with Will.. Don Mcclure should also be held accountable…

  29. Thatsenoughcrazy says:

    I agree with Will.. Don Mcclure should also be held accountable…

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