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  1. Pilgrim says:

    Just wondering if this is a lapse or deliberate because he remembered to file for his own ministry:

    Entity Name: CALVARY CHAPEL ASSOCIATION
    Entity Number: C3508778
    Date Filed: 09/17/2012
    Status: FTB SUSPENDED
    Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
    Entity Address: 3000 W. MACARTHUR BLVD. SUITE 110
    Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA ANA CA 92704
    Agent for Service of Process: DONALD MCCLURE
    Agent Address: 6 DRAKES BAY DRIVE
    Agent City, State, Zip: CORONA DEL MAR CA 92625

    And:

    Entity Name: CALVARY WAY MINISTRIES, INC.
    Entity Number: C2480366
    Date Filed: 08/08/2002
    Status: ACTIVE
    Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
    Entity Address: 6 DRAKES BAY DRIVE
    Entity City, State, Zip: CORONA DEL MAR CA 92625
    Agent for Service of Process: DONALD R MCCLURE
    Agent Address: 6 DRAKES BAY DRIVE
    Agent City, State, Zip: CORONA DEL MAR CA 92625

    You can verify by doing a business search with the State of California.

  2. Em says:

    prayer for Michael N.

    since this thread is open to randomness – that’s where my mind operates – i am concerned that the Church in the U.S. isn’t focused on Christ, but rather on the firestorm around us – the land in which we live is moving away from respect for our Faith and into the chaos of lawless delusions… how does the Body of Christ – evangelicals included – stay healthy? am i wrong to have concluded that we aren’t and won’t ever be again the dominant influence – i think we were at one time – on the nation’s policies?

    someone remarked that Christianity is gaining ground, moving into compassion and away from a message of absolutes such as eternal damnation, etc.

  3. Em says:

    looks to be a Calvary Chapel thread… time for me to get up and get busy…

    (something strange going on with my computer thing here anyway… i’m looking at lines of code in all the boxes to the right… “comment, method, margin, padding, etc” used to write some myself, so i know what it is, but these days it just looks like work… but why am i seeing it here, i wonder

  4. mike says:

    Pilgrim
    Not sure what the data means and what the implications are. Help me out?
    -mike

  5. Paige says:

    Love you my friend…. Hope you can truly rest and recoup this weekend. Praying for you.

  6. JoelG says:

    I’m sorry Michael. I feel your pain. The toilet is my best friend today. TMI, I know lol. Hope you feel better.

    “Christianity is gaining ground, moving into compassion” It’s about time! ; )

  7. Linnea says:

    Praying you feel better, Michael…

  8. Erik says:

    A $ 100k per speaking engagement. Personally, I don’t have an issue with big bucks $$ flowing in, provided its the Holy Spirit moving on hearts, and not the speaker fleecing the flock. But we just dont see that anymore, or if it does happen, we dont hear about it. Other then Billy Graham who used to bring in 130milion per year in donations. He didn’t live high off the hog.

    http://news.yahoo.com/megachurch-pastor-seeks-donations-pricey-private-jet-234234111.html

  9. JohnnyB says:

    Creflo Dollar is a controversial figure who preaches the prosperity gospel, a doctrine claiming that donations to Christian ministries like his will always increase one’s material wealth.

    His congregation is mostly poor and and uneducated in Atlanta Gerogia.

    “We are asking members, partners, and supporters of this ministry to assist in the undertaking of an initiative called Project G650.

    The mission of Project G650 is to acquire a Gulfstream G650 airplane so that Pastors Creflo and Taffi and World Changers Church International can continue to blanket the globe with the Gospel of grace.

    We are believing for 200,000 people to give contributions of 300 US dollars or more to turn this dream into a reality—and allow us to retire the aircraft that served us well for many years.”

    Creflo Dollar

    ***

    ( Hey, it worked for Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland and a host of others )

    ***

    Dollar: “If horses get together, they produce what?”

    Congregation: “Horses!”
    Dollar: “If dogs get together, they produce what?”
    Congregation: “Dogs!”
    Dollar: “If cats get together, they produce what?”
    Congregation: “Cats!”
    Dollar: “So if the Godhead says ‘Let us make man in our image’, and everything produces after its own kind, then they produce what?”
    Congregation: “gods!”
    Dollar: “gods. Little “g” gods. You’re not human. Only human part of you is this flesh you’re wearing.”

    Creflo Dollar

    Dollar has often been criticized for his lavish lifestyle.

    According to reports, Dollar has an estimated net worth of $27 million. The Root reports this is 200 times more than the $29,640 average annual income in College Park, Ga., where his ministry is based.

    He’s too broke, though, to buy his own plane?

    ” Dollar would rather press people living below the federal poverty line—people with no jobs, no insurance, no healthcare, and, in some cases, no homes—into funding his luxurious travel?”

    Kristen West Savali “The Root”

  10. Erik says:

    Copeland says here on youtube that he is a billionaire.

  11. Erik says:

    Correction: 1.3 billion coming in total. Not net worth, im sure he is worth over 100-200m.

  12. Erik says:

    I think I may have you beat JohnnyB by this one

  13. Erik says:

    go to 6:08-10:10

    One of the most bizarre things ive seen in a while.

  14. Dan from Georgia says:

    No video here, but I can attest, living in Georgia (metro Atlanta) since 2009, that Georgia is not lacking in wacko preachers.

  15. Erik says:

    No comment LOL

    Martin Luther quote:

    On the Councils and the Church from Vol. 41 of Luther’s Works.

    Insult:

    54 You are admirable, fine, pious sows and asses.
    56 You are like mouse-dropping in the pepper.
    72 Listen, you ass, you are a particularly crass ass, indeed, you are a filthy sow!
    124 You are the white devil and a glittering Satan.
    132 You are pious and honest people, who cannot do anything but calumniate and lie.
    150 Snot-nose!
    158 You should rightly be called lawyers for asses.
    159 Are you not mad, and crazy, and crass Nestorians, not knowing when you say yes and when you say no, stating one thing in the premise and another in the conclusion? Away with you stupid asses and fools!
    160 You are a brothel-keeper and the devil’s daughter in hell.

  16. Luther was the great insulter – however remember that Luther was 300 yrs before the Victorian era when it became politically correct to be polite.

    HOWEVER, if you watch the videos above, who here would not agree that everyone of those comments do and should apply to all of those preachers. The fact that most here are to PC to call a spade a spade, these guys get complete immunity.

    Joe Bob Briggs, the host on the Godstuff video is actually applying the Luther mockery and should receive some award.

  17. Em says:

    would Martin Luther have gotten a spot on SNL?

    there may some who know the Lord among the wealthy (off of our fleece), but most will probably find that the money that enabled all their trips to the spas and the esthetics doctors have made them today’s “whitewashed sepulchers” … inside Creflo’s flesh is not a god, but a dead man’s bones … God, however, may, might, maybe, perhaps show some mercy to these “victims” of our preference for personality over – dare i say it? – Doctrines?

  18. The Dude says:

    Eric
    Watched your upload for a few seconds and came to the conclusion it was going to ruin my home cooked meal from my lady friend……

  19. Erik says:

    Sorry Dude 🙁

    Yea its not a chick flick. When your alone and in Dude Mode, check it out. There is some language so be on notice.

  20. Linda Pappas says:

    Praying that this downtime serves to refresh and provide the rest needed, Michael.

    On the topic of domestic violence in the church:

    An excellent series:

    http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?seriesOnly=true&currSection=sermonstopic&SourceID=crc&keyworddesc=Domestic+Violence+and+Abuse&keyword=Domestic+Violence+and+Abuse

  21. The Dude says:

    Erik
    Dinner was great.. Didn’t stay home for a chick flick. We went to a coffee house and enjoyed live music from some people who are quite talented.

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