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  1. DavidM says:

    May I post a baseball-related thought? On this day in 1959, my dad, on his birthday, took me to a Dodger game at the LA Coliseum. The Dodgers defeated the Giants 2-1 in 13 innings. What is most notable is that Don Drysdale pitched all 13 innings for the Dodgers. That just doesn’t happen anymore.

  2. Jeff Sheckstein says:

    Nolan Ryan “The Express.”

    156 complete games

  3. Corby says:

    Two things bugging me over the course of the Covid weeks as relates to the church and church members. What I’m seeing first hand is that when people don’t go to the church building for the service/experience, they stop giving. And, church staff need to look busy so that people will “pay” them (give). The solution? Create more media. Create media for Christians to consume so that they will give, and they do. Whose to blame? Everyone. The memember’s behavior reinforces the church’s and vice verse. I’m seeing money spent on lighting rigs, cameras, streaming equipment, more music gear, to create more media for people to consume so that they can keep their jobs.

    People aren’t giving to the Lord, they are giving to the show. Churches aren’t discipling people, they are entertaining them under the guise of ministry (who is even being served? no one). And as long as both sides get what they want, no one will point out the obvious which is none of this is about Jesus and His kingdom, it’s about ours.

    None of this is new, it’s just being put on display in very sharp contrast.

  4. Michael says:

    DavidM,

    I’ve always felt like Opening Day in baseball was the real start of the new year…another one of our rhythms broken by the virus…

  5. Michael says:

    Corby,

    You’re dead on…

  6. Babylon's Dread says:

    Jeff,

    The list I see gives Ryan 222 complete games so I don’t know how we diverge.

    Corby,

    The shock at my church has been the faithfulness of the giving. We already had cameras and lights and live web cast so we haven’t had more expenses. Our media is not great but adequate and our online presence has been, ‘meh’ or maybe a little better.

    Our zoom activity has sky rocketed.

    But my observation is that my folk are giving to the Lord and by principle not by coercion. I am not sure why or how that happened but I have been their pastor for 20 years, at least some of them.

  7. Em says:

    Corby describes something more dangerous than any virus – sorrowful

  8. CM says:

    Michael,

    There is something to be said about opening day, I agree. I am in the Boston area, and well there is a LOT of history at Fenway (especially since most, it not all of the ballparks from that era have long since been demolished).

  9. DavidM says:

    Corby, that may be true in some places, but not everywhere. I don’t know how you can quantify your opinions. In our church, we’ve had to “ create” more media opportunities. People want to attend worship services but, given the current circumstances, they are utilizing the online services. Our giving has remained steady but our motive was never about money, it was about accommodating worship.

    “People aren’t giving to the Lord, they are giving to the show. Churches aren’t discipling people, they are entertaining them under the guise of ministry (who is even being served? no one).” Those are generalizations that paint all churches with the same wide brush.

  10. CM says:

    Michael,

    I saw your tweet about the Feast of Ascension. I find odd that most Christian churches in the US don’t really celebrate it or even mention it. Sure, they cover Palm Sunday, Good Friday, Easter, and Christmas. And sure the Pentecostal types will cover Pentecost (albeit most often in a sermon promoting their specific pneumotology), but Ascension gets short shrift.

    This is where Jesus Christ goes to prepare the place for believers, returns to the Father in Heaven, gets his exaltation and glorification, and of course then is able to send the Paraclete. Not exactly small potatoes.

  11. Michael says:

    I’m doing Zoom,but it’s not a good show… 🙂
    So, there is some measure of a broad brush here…and I helped paint. 🙂

  12. parker says:

    Jack Hibbs says: “It’s in Governor Newsoms best interest if the churches not reassemble in California.” Whatever that’s supposed to imply. Oh, and he was on One America News of course. Check it out:

  13. jtk says:

    “1. What I’m seeing first hand is that when people don’t go to the church building for the service/experience, they stop giving.
    2. And, church staff need to look busy so that people will “pay” them (give).
    3. The solution? Create more media. Create media for Christians to consume so that they will give, and they do.”

    Totally not what I’m seeing.

    I’ve heard giving is way down in many local churches.

    All the ministers I’m acquainted with are doing what they can via media because they fear God and want to be faithful with the gifts God has given them.

    Unusual

  14. Dan from Georgia says:

    It wasn’t even 10 years ago that most MLB teams would have 10 or some complete games by season’s end. Despite all the home runs the Minnesota Twins hit last season (307!)…they had ONE complete game.

    Gone are the days when, say, Jack Morris for example, would pitch game 7 of a World Series game…all 10 innings…and come out with a 1-0 victory! LONG GONE are those days.

  15. Dan from Georgia says:

    Sorry I am a bit behind on topics today.

  16. UnCCed says:

    If anyone reading this accidentally received my stimulus check or federal tax return check, would you please let me know and I’ll drive no matter how far just to get it from you.
    It is more likely this happened than I’ll every get help from the IRS on either.
    Their official position is basically “whenever it comes” and actually state it may come after filing next year’s return.
    I’m not kidding.

  17. CM says:

    My take on Hibbs is the same one that Michael Reagan (conservative son of Ronald Reagan) had toward Robert Jeffress in his tweet on 21 JULY 2018:

    https://twitter.com/reaganworld/status/1020830339755696128?lang=en

    “All I can say is go F yourself.Pastor Robert Jeffress Defends Trump’s Evangelical Support By Citing ‘Womanizer’ Reagan”

  18. Jean says:

    Can someone explain to me how in blazes the coronavirus got connected to 5G cellular phone technology?

  19. Dan from Georgia says:

    Jean,

    I don’t have an answer, but a few days ago on my Mozilla news feed there was an article written by a FORMER conspiracy believer on why some/all conspiracy believers believe the way they do. I will look for the link this evening.

  20. Dan from Georgia says:

    Found it rather quickly…it’s on VOX (not FOX – obviously):

    https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/5/15/21258855/coronavirus-covid-19-conspiracy-theories-cancer

    I don’t think this article addresses the particular belief about 5G, but I think the over-arching concept still applies.

  21. Michael says:

    Jean,

    5G activates the coronavirus.
    If you look at the maps, places that are the Covid19 hotspots, they are also the first places that got 5G.
    Yes, there are bunches of people who believe exactly what I just wrote…

  22. Dan from Georgia says:

    Michael and Jean,

    Ha! Sometimes like you said people try to link two totally unrelated events and think one causes the other. As a meteorologist/scientist, I come across this from time to time: people think you can balance an egg on its end on the summer and winter solstice…truth is you can do it ANY day of the year if you have a steady hand and a smooth surface. Also people used to think that tornadoes never cross rivers and never hit cities. An examination of tornado climatology will quickly put that notion to rest.

    I know these are more innocuous examples, but generally I think some people just can’t live with uncertainty and need an explanation for everything.

    Or maybe they need to be some medication.

  23. bob1 says:

    generally I think some people just can’t live with uncertainty and need an explanation for everything.

    You know, I think there’s a lot of truth in that assertion. It seems sometimes people can’t tolerate ambiguity, so they “fill in holes.”

    Also, causation and correlation. 🙂

  24. bob1 says:

    I mean, this has a funny aspect — until you realize that the wrong knowledge right now can be literally deadly.

    “A new Yahoo News/YouGov poll finds 44% of Republicans believe that Bill Gates is plotting to use a mass coronavirus vaccination campaign as a pretext to implant microchips in billions of people and monitor their movements. Just 26% of Republicans correctly identify the story as false.”

    https://news.yahoo.com/new-yahoo-news-you-gov-poll-shows-coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-spreading-on-the-right-may-hamper-vaccine-efforts-152843610.html

    “Carnegie Mellon University researchers have discovered that much of the discussion around the pandemic and stay-at-home orders is being fueled by misinformation campaigns that use convincing bots.

    Said professor Kathleen Carley: “We’re seeing up to two times as much bot activity as we’d predicted based on previous natural disasters, crises and elections.”

    https://www.scs.cmu.edu/news/nearly-half-twitter-accounts-discussing-%E2%80%98reopening-america%E2%80%99-may-be-bots

  25. Jeb says:

    Wow must be the last days! Jack Hibbs was right and Governor of CA backed down!
    Whereas Jeff Sheck was wrong it was 156 complete games with the Angels but 222 for his entire career.

  26. CM says:

    Dan from GA,

    The problem is most people don’t know statistics, analysis of variance (ANOVA) and that correlation does not prove causation. My background is in engineering so I am quite familiar with the mathematics and the statistics. The reason there is any correlation between 5G and coronavirus hot spots have to do with the fact both are in dense urban areas. One could equally say that traffic or exposure to concrete caused coronavirus.

  27. CM says:

    Dan from GA,

    I may have said it it in another post, but if one wants to know why people believe in conspiracy theories, only need to watch the South Park episode, “Mystery of the Urinal Deuce.”

  28. Em says:

    Conspiracies? We may be very poor at identifying them, but you better believe there is a portion of the human race for whom constructing them is, not only doing what comes naturally, it is their bread and butter
    Guess who said what about you? 😯

  29. Michael…come on man.

    The virus is a ruse..
    So that you take the so called vacine..
    That is owned by Bil Gates..
    But is in fact The Mark..
    Of THE BEAST…(make sure you drag out your syllables)
    Which controls your brain..
    With signals sent from the 5 Gees..

  30. Wait until 6G. Industry should name it 666G, just to troll.

  31. Jeff Sheckstein says:

    I am duly called out for my egregious error and therefore duly repent. I shall never quote a baseball statistic again.

  32. Dan from Georgia says:

    CM and bob1…thanks for your comments!

    With apologies to Freud, or whomever said it,….

    Sometimes a pandemic is just a pandemic.

  33. Dan from Georgia says:

    …baseball complete games stats…

    just did some 5am sleuthing: MN Twins had one complete game (Berrios) in 2019…only 2 AL pitchers had more complete games than Berrios in 2019…3 complete games by Bieber and Giolito each…the NL had two pitchers with 2 CG’s each. Last pitcher to compile 10+ complete games in a season…James Shields in 2011

    (stats form baseball-almanac.com)

  34. CM says:

    Dan,

    To piggyback off your complete game stats (after doing some 7 am research), the last pitcher to complete 15 complete games in a season was Curt Shilling in 1998, the last one to do 20 games in a season was Fernando Valenzuela in 1986. The current active complete game leader right now is Justin Verlander at 26. BTW, only Shields in 2011 and CC Sabathia in 2008 have done 10 or more complete games so far in the 21st century.

  35. Dan from Georgia says:

    CM,

    Thanks! I was perusing the baseball-almanac webpage, and the complete games all-time records is a who’s-who of people I, and probably most baseball fans, have never heard of…totals in the 60s-70s.

    Cy Young’s highest season total is 48.

    Much different game back then, even going back to just 1986 and 1998!

  36. Dan from Georgia says:

    Oops…mean all-time single-season totals in the 60s to 70s. Cy Young btw holds the career record…somewhere in the 700’s!

  37. JoelG says:

    I miss baseball. And the NBA. I hope the NFL gets to play a full season.

    What a great memory, DavidM. Wow.

  38. McGarrett says:

    I remember going to the World Series, game 5, in 1981. Goose Gossage in relief. He hit Ron Cey on his helmet with a 98 MPH fastball. We were near third base in front lower section. You could hear the sound so clearly, Cey dropped, and 55,000 plus were completely silent. Good news, was Cey was ok, and the Dodgers whacked the Yankees in game 6 to take the World Series.

  39. Em says:

    Youse guys can’t be all bad – you like baseball. 😁

  40. Dan from Georgia says:

    Youse guys.

    Awesome!

  41. CM says:

    An another note, does anybody remember when the NBA used to play basketball? You know, back in the era of Michael Jordan around 20 years ago? Instead of this aberration they call basketball now?

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