Prayer & Praise

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  1. j2theperson says:

    I’m sorry but I flat out don’t believe that God loves us more than we know. The Bible refers to him as our Father, but He gives way too many children to terrible and abusive people for me to believe He cares about them. There is too much suffering in the world for me to believe He loves us.

  2. Paul A. Lytton says:

    j2theperson,

    Sorry that is how you feel at this time. I pray that God will bless you with His power of the Holy Spirit and relieve you from your unbelief that He loves everyone. May He grant you the wisdom to understand the difference between His love and the results of sinful actions caused by evil spirits and people. Hopefully in a short amount of time something will happen to change your vision of God’s actions and His inaction, as a display of His love. I am sure there are many here that will be praying for you and/or hurting for/with you. Remember that all of the people touched by your post is a form of God telling you He loves you. All of the people in your personal life that know your view and are concerned for you are an expression from God. Even the ones you know nothing about. May God bless and comfort you, soon.

  3. Em again says:

    “There is too much suffering in the world for me to believe He loves us.” oh, God cares alright…

    when your child is born, you love him and it’s not because you decide to love him – when he is hurt, you hurt more because you love him… (yes, i know there is evil and some parents for whatever cause, don’t experience this)

    i used to feel exactly the same as what #1 expresses and then one day i realized what it cost the Father to see His son on that cross… what we don’t understand and won’t understand while we journey thru this world is what it’s all about… God’s love is an absolute and it is a constant – He hurts for the child and He hurts for the man

  4. Em again says:

    a really tiring week for some unrecognized reason… but the older i get, the more i pray
    God keep all close and comforted

  5. JTK says:

    After 12 years on the same public university campus, our local university (against their own published public policies) has banned me and my fellow pastor, and suspended our student group without a hearing. All the evidence is demonstrably false. I’ve never seen such blatant false allegations.

    We have an appeals hearing this Tuesday morning, I would greatly appreciate your prayers.

    I personally messaged Michael. I’m sorry I don’t feel able to share much more right now, but I’ve been here on the PP for 10 years or so. I’d appreciate your prayers! -Kir k.

  6. JoelG says:

    J2,

    God seeming absent and silent in the face of abuse and suffering is hard to understand. Jesus experienced it first hand. All I know is that we, as Christ followers, play a part with God in helping to relieve suffering caused by our sin, one day and one person at a time.

    Big hug to you. 🙂

  7. j2theperson says:

    I guess if God’s love is so silent, I don’t understand what the point of praying to Him is. It doesn’t change Him and it doesn’t change you either. All it does is remind you that God is profoundly uninvolved in the world.

  8. JoelG says:

    If God is absent from the world I think humanity would have caved in on itself a long time ago. Although He seems silent, we need to remember where we can always find Him: in His Word and His Sacraments.

    He hears you and knows your despairing right now. He won’t let you linger there. Go to where He promises to meet us.

  9. Nonnie says:

    JTK, praying for you.

    J2, I believe that when Jesus taught “The Lord’s prayer” he purposely said, “Pray Our Father….” as a sign to us of how great the Father’s love is. As you or I love our child, (with a in describable love), I believe that is shadow of how our Father in heaven loves us. As the Father of the prodigal son loves his son who so abused Him….I believe that is a picture of how God loves us.
    I too don’t understand all the suffering in the world, but I do believe God loves, cares and is with us in the sorrow and pain. I also believe that God is not threatened or disturbed by honest questions and doubts. Blessings to you and yours.

  10. Em again says:

    “. I also believe that God is not threatened or disturbed by honest questions and doubts. ” amen to that belief
    the best analogy i have is that of a parent and child – but the game is much bigger than launching one person into the world … still we, each of us, are much more important than we know … and that thousand years being an eye blink on God’s time table helps me realize that what is grinding so slow for us isn’t – i look forward to worship more fully when i see more clearly

    praying for JTK’s trial and all the PhxP today

  11. Michael says:

    We have two referents for what we believe about God.
    One is the Bible, the other our experiences.

    I have found that the Bible and my experiences can reliably inform each other.

    That is because the Bible does indeed speak of the love of God, but it also promises in many places that those whom God loves will suffer.

    It does not explain the paradox, it simply states it.

    There have been times recently when I wondered if my theology would be able to withstand another round of suffering because it was already straining under the load of present affliction.

    It has, one day, sometimes one hour, at a time.

    There are days when I tell God that I’m entitled to better…He laughs and says better is coming…but maybe not here.

    I know His love and I am trying to trust His judgements and ways.

    I pray that peace and faith will come to those here weary and troubled.

  12. Linnea says:

    JTK…praying for you. Knowing what I know about that campus, it’s surprising, but never the less, discouraging.

    We are having difficulties with aging parents and can’t possibly fulfill all their demands and needs. Please keep us in prayer as we try to get them to realize they need professional nursing care.

  13. Em again says:

    Linnea, been there done that… one doesn’t really comprehend it until you go through it…

    the roles swap and now that i’m close to the receiving end, we old folk (most of us) don’t like it one bit – praying

  14. Jlo says:

    Praying the list and praying for Alex.

  15. Erunner says:

    I received the results from my camera endoscopy and there were none of the nad things that could have been found. They did order an ultrasound for my liver as it’s fatty and the dr. wants to make sure it’s not too big. He’s putting me on another iron pill that he hopes I tolerate better.

    I am thankful that my various tests have gone well but more than that is God gave me the strength to have them done. He has been so gracious to me.

    “There are days when I tell God that I’m entitled to better…He laughs and says better is coming…but maybe not here.”

    Michael, I went through more years than I care to admit with the attitude of entitlement leading me to create a false construct of God based on my reason which is in contradiction to Proverbs 3:5,6. It almost offended me that maybe God wanted me to participate in what He was seeking to accomplish in my life. I figured He owed me as I was a good guy.

    It was a survival mechanism to avoid perceived future abandonments by God.

    He’s been gently leading me through various challenges and I pray I will be able to trust Him in the future.

    My prayers are with the needs expressed here. God bless and keep each one in this community.

  16. Em again says:

    what is the point in praying to a silent God? someone asked… one reason might be that on the day of reckoning, the real beginning of your life, your basket of faith will be full and God will answer all those heartaches and puzzlements – maybe with kisses – dunno 🙂

    good to read E’s report of some progress… so many i know are buried in trouble and confusions now

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