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  1. John 20:29 says:

    Amen to every line of your TGIF today, Michael

    my take away from all the concerned comments here on this subject was Filbertz’ yesterday… we are the Church, lets do OUR job (if we can figure out what it is)… our human wisdom is no match for the evil one

  2. Michael says:

    Em,

    Thank you…and amen.

  3. Michael says:

    Reports of another shooting at a college in Washington state coming in…

  4. Xenia says:

    I agree with your article, Michael. Thank you.

  5. Josh the Baptist says:

    I also agree.

  6. JD says:

    The coddling of this criminal is outrageous.

  7. Michael says:

    Thank you, Xenia and Josh…

  8. DavidM says:

    When I saw the public defender rubbing his back, I nearly jumped out of my chair. Such pseudo, misplaced “compassion” is revolting.

    The extreme violence in video games teaches young, isolated kids to blur the line between fantasy and reality. For some, by the time they figure it out, it’s too late.

    God help us

  9. Ron Arbaugh says:

    Thank you for the clarity this article provides. This kind of clarity could help us begin to help solve these murders.

  10. Donner says:

    Now THIS is a post with which I can agree. Good stuff, and thanks.

  11. Michael says:

    I’ll end the niceties with another thing I hold to be true.
    The difference between this kid and many other kids I know is so thin as to be almost transparent…there are so many at risk today it boggles the mind and breaks the heart.

  12. descended says:

    Excellent and true, Michael.

  13. Steve says:

    Thank God I have Jesus as my public defender. I see this lady doing the best she can with a horrible job.

  14. Babylon's Dread says:

    Just now seeing this,

    This is the stuff I was thinking about all morning.

    We have sown into the well of anger, malice, hatred and violence.

    Look what we are reaping.

  15. Michael says:

    BD,

    To make matters worse, we are doubling down on hate in front of the young.
    We just can’t stop planting…

  16. Jean says:

    The defense attorney in a criminal case has a valuable vocation every bit as God given as the prosecutor’s and the judge’s. The defense attorney is the defendant’s advocate in the criminal proceeding. It is worthy of respect and often very difficult.

    The defendant is even now under the wrath of God. It is almost certainly too late to save the body (given what I understand to be his confession); but it is not too late to save his soul.

    As a royal priesthood, Christians may pray for the families of the innocent victims of this massacre; and Christians may also pray for their enemy, that God’s wrath would work repentance in the defendant, that he would ask for a pastor while in prison during his incarceration, and before he is finally judged in the flesh, he would repent of his sins and hear the absolution of his sins for the salvation of his soul.

  17. Michael says:

    As I reflected on this last night I understood her actions.

    He is the 18th casualty… his life is over .

    Capital punishment may be a mercy to him.

    I know too many who could end up standing in a similar place…

  18. Jean says:

    Michael,

    I had jury duty on Wednesday. It was a criminal case. The defendant was in the age range of my sons. For about 3-1/2 hours I sat near him. All I felt was deep sorrow for the toll that sin reeks on mankind. Glory be to God that He sent his only begotten Son into this wicked world to die for the ungodly.

  19. Jim says:

    Good post. I’m still going to blame the fathers.

  20. Br Paul says:

    #9

    “The extreme violence in video games teaches young, isolated kids to blur the line between fantasy and reality. For some, by the time they figure it out, it’s too late.”

    One reason eSports is becoming so popular is because the violence is not real. They are rejecting the real violence seen in NFL games where players loose the ability to walk or kill themselves decades later for example.

    It is not the game, music, movie, TV, art, boos, comic, etc. as those just copy the real actions in our world.

  21. This is really good!!

  22. Duane Arnold says:

    A tragedy… for him, for the victims, for the prosecutor. Jesus must weep for the state of humankind.

  23. Chris Logn says:

    Right on Michael! After Columbine in the late 90’s, I started writing this song and finished it after the Santee school shooting in 2001 and recorded it several years later. It’s a song I honestly tend to completely forget about, but was reminded of as it again reflects my thoughts. Even as one that was still in high school-era age myself at the time of Columbine, I knew that all the yapping going on about why it happened was missing the bigger picture issue. Once again, the talking heads will yap about how to solve this problem. One will say to get rid of more guns. Another will say that guns don’t kill people only people do. And the deeper issues will go untouched and unexplored. And life will go on and the cycle will repeat. It’s what we do.

    If we really want to solve this issue, we have to get beyond simple scapegoating – there’s blame enough to go around. And while there might be some legit discussions to had about some facets regarding guns or mental health, there are bigger questions in play.

    If anyone’s interested, the song is called “Reaping What We’ve Sown” and is available here: http://www.laughandlift.com/music/Misc/ReapingWhatWeveSown.mp3

  24. The New Victor says:

    @23 Duane, the patience of God is infinite compared to ours. Yet it’s so much worse most everywhere on the planet.

    My son is autistic level 1, what they used to call Asperger’s. We have a Playstastation 3 used to access Netflix and YouTube. I don’t get the kids video games. Not even minecraft though I do let them watch walkthroughs sometimes. I know how he can obsess and hyper focus on things. If I let him play a shooter game, I’d never get him off. Given the ASD, he’s at risk, and I will protect him as long as I can. I’m not sure at what age I’ll introduce him to real firearms. I was thinking of going out with pumpkins and melons to drive home the point. Growing up in rural California, we were trusted unsupervised in our early teens with .22s, which would be against state law now. Times have changed.

    No comment on the PD. Only that I could never be a PD, though I’m sure the majority do a lot of good.

  25. The New Victor says:

    @24. What seeds of despair have we sown? My buddy’s step-dad was a cop. LEOs study columbine. From the details he told me, those kids were evil sociopaths.

    Maybe to your point, if I’m reading to correctly, was the sympathy I saw in certain places that those supposedly bullied kids took their revenge. Sadly, I’ve seen this in a few places regarding this incident… which would scare us.

  26. filbertz says:

    I broached the topic of this shooting this morning in our staff meeting…just at my table with a handful of peers, and they all warned me off: don’t bring it up–it’s all too raw–it’s all we can do to be here today.

    As I said the other day on a sister thread, there are students in my building who I have deep concern about–with the same challenges and issues this shooter faced. My district is strapped financially and to add further mental health services or screening to our obligations would push us into deep red ink. To have a shooting would destroy us as a school district. Large districts can more easily adapt to changing demands–small ones die off.

  27. The New Victor says:

    My school sent out a Facebook post with messages from the superintendent and the police chief. Part of it was advice on how to talk to the kids, pre-k through 5th at my kids’ school. Kinder and 2nd is too young. I noticed the news was covering it at grandma’s house though in Spanish. The kids didn’t say anything. I didn’t tell them. They are too young to have this crap foisted upon them… speaking add the kid of a mother who over shared about a lot of things to me which in part turned me numb.

    If they do hear about it and ask me I’ll talk to them in a way but to induce trauma.

    We were robbed twice. I told the kids and they didn’t see the messes, especially the broken safety glass the second time. “Bad people stole or tablets daddy?” Yes.

    Acquaintances in another city were also robbed. They couldn’t stop talking about it on Facebook. Then they started posting about how their daughter, same age as my son, we having nightmares about getting robbed again. Hello? Stop projecting your trauma onto your kid. Make the talks age appropriate.

  28. Chris Logn says:

    26) I would say the answer to what constitutes “seeds of despair” could encompass many things. But just because I mentioned that in a song lyric doesn’t mean I think that’s the only seeds that have been sown – we’ve been sowing all sorts of crap… But I would say that in my own personal observation regarding kids today is that despair and hopelessness is at an all time high. And sociopath or no, people don’t generally just wake up sociopaths. Now I’m not saying there can’t be mental health issues in play, but there’s a lot of factors in contributing to someone deciding to go on a killing spree – it doesn’t just happen on a random whim out-of-the-blue (unless we want to talk about demons). There’s build-up, there’s lead-up.

    As Michael rightly pointed out, we have a culture right now where we our fine with our 11 and 12 year old boys spending hours a day going around killing people in the most violent ways possible. We even buy them the games! We take them to go see movies like Deadpool etc. (I can tell you that that was a popular movie among the jr. high crowd in my local area).

    Then we act all surprised when someone actually crosses the virtual->physical threshold and want to blame guns or just say some kids are just inherently evil or say it was their medication or whatever. Now there could be some of those other factors in the mix – I don’t deny that, but as a culture, we have sown a culture of death and despair. Most middle school and above boys I know do NOT have much hope for their future – they are disallusioned and they drown their internal pain in video games and porn. That’s the truth.

    We will (and are) reap what we’ve sown. And personally, I think we’re just at the tip of the iceberg. I hope I’m wrong.

  29. The New Victor says:

    What do you think it’s the root of this despair? I mentored at-risk teens in 2007 and 2008. I saw a disconnect from their families. Other than my one orphan teen, and another raised by a single mom (he grew up far too early), the others were from nuclear families, and the parents were at a loss as well.

  30. Chris Logn says:

    First, kudos for you for being the hands-and-feet of Jesus in doing mentoring – that’s awesome! 🙂 I also have done it and the most frustrating thing for me has been trying to show one way to live while the home environment they are in is teaching the opposite. I can talk about the problems of violence, but if they then go home and their parent/caregiver lets them spend hours playing the latest Call of Duty where they go around mass killing people for fun, it kind of can seem like a losing game, you know? Or their parent takes them to see Deadpool with its 60+ F-bombs, extreme violence, and sexual content. Or I can talk about the dangers of porn, but if the caregivers give a 12yo boy an unrestricted/unmonitored tablet, it makes it kind of a difficult sell when the caregivers’ actions don’t line up. And the thing is that the kids KNOW it’s not right too and they KNOW their parents/caregivers aren’t doing for them as they should – which fuels them further feeling disallusioned and hopeless – they feel crappy about their life. You take the parents/caregivers issues, add in all the foul media, the peer-pressure and bullying, etc. and it can really fuel things.

    As for the root of the despair, I think that really could be a massive paper, but if I had to boil it all down to one thing, I would just say it simply comes down to lack of looking to Jesus and abiding in Him. Real life and hope and joy spring from Jesus. When people run from that as our society has more and more, there are more and more symptoms that show as a result of that. Despair is one of them.

    The song I posted, albeit written by me a long time ago as a pretty young guy myself, was more-or-less trying to say “We’re reaping what we’ve down, but if we look to the One that gives us breath and overcame death, that’s the answer” Which might sound simplistic, but basically I think is true. 🙂

    But it’s much more fun to argue about guns than actually look at ourselves and how we’ve been thinking and living ourselves (in relation to what God would have) and how we’ve been modeling and shaping the culture for our kids. That would take real honesty and sincerity and nobody wants to have those conversations because it’s an indictment against us. Which is why I really applaud this post from Michael – because he gets it.

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