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  1. John 20:29 says:

    Do we know whether the dead saints released from their tombs were resuscitated like Lazarus or resurrected and headed for Paradise? … don’t know why, but I’ve never thought about it … 😕 I guess I assumed it was the latter …?…

  2. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Em, why would you think that Lazarus was not actually resurrected? It seems that the point Jesus is making by raising Laz is “I am the resurrection…”

  3. Xenia says:

    Em can’t use the word “resuscitated” because she is speaking English. 🙂

    In English, the words “resuscitate” and “resurrect” have different meanings.

    “Resuscitate” suggests a scene at the hospital where the patient is in cardiac arrest and seems to have died- almost died, that is. By means of CPR, big needles into the heart, etc. he is brought back to life. He was never really dead.

    “Resurrect” means the person is dead dead dead and after a period of time when there can be no doubt the person is dead, s/he miraculously returns to life, as did Our Lord, Lazarus, and the Tomb Folk.

    Both words are often interchanged in casual conversation.

    In Spanish, “resuscitate” does mean “resurrect.” My Spanish language professor husband and I just had a discussion about this. When I first heard at Easter “Christ is risen!” in Spanish I was quite bothered: “Cristo ha resucitado.” Turns out, the Spanish cognates for “resuscitate” and “resurrect” mean the same thing in Spanish.

    But not in English. 🙂

    “Risen” doesn’t really have any specific meaning. It could refer to a person getting up out of their chair. “Resuscitate” and “resurrect” have specific meanings when used carefully.

    So, Christ and the Tomb Folk were not resuscitated, they were miraculously resurrected.

  4. Jean says:

    Perhaps the distinction Em was trying to make, and which appears to be the case, is that the raising of the tomb folk and Lazarus were not into the glorified bodies which Jesus was and that the rest of us will be on the last day. In other words, In other words, Lazarus one would imagine, died a physical death again, and will be raised imperishable along with the rest of us on the last day.

  5. John 20:29 says:

    MLD, Lazarus was brought back from the dead by Jesus at the tomb where his sisters had placed his remains, but i’ve always understood that he faced, eventual, physical death … again

    Jean, yep

    but Xenia’s teaching is valuable in sorting the distinctions 🙂

    perhaps, we have a word for raising a dead body to life to live in the flesh and then die eventually… ? …
    resuscitate was the one that came to mind, but perhaps there is a more distinct one? knowing the theologians love of their craft, there must be one

    thanks to you all for the input… but this teaching section has much more that glorifies the power of God, His way of working His plan right thru the best efforts of the evil that man can concoct

  6. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I offered this idea above “Or is this symbolic of the crucifixion releasing the souls of the saints?” – and it is where I have been leaning the past several years – Matthew is making a poetic / apocalyptic statement about the death of Jesus (I would even back it up to include v. 51 about the tearing of the temple curtain.)

    Matthew’s point? The death of Jesus opened access to the Father and released the souls of the OT saints.

  7. John 20:29 says:

    so…. then when it speaks of the tombs releasing the dead and them walking around Jerusalem (from memory, may not be accurate on this)… it was symbolic?

    it does seem reasonable that the temple curtain ripped top to bottom literally – i wonder if some did get the message then? i think that the events visible to all there at the time of the crucifixion must have been a wake up call and converted many Jews that may have been on the fence, thinking who do we believe? our priests or our eyes? …

    either way, praise God for this incredible victory over death that He offers us

  8. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Not symbolic – it is apocalyptic.

  9. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    If anyone would like to read a little about my position on the Zombies for Jesus (Matt 27) attached is a short paper delivered by Michael Licona addressing it in reply to his critics.

    https://www.risenjesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011-eps-saints-paper.pdf

  10. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Just to add to the record here – a short interview (5 min) with Paul Copan defending Licona’s interpretation of Matt 27 as apocalyptic credible against the charges of Norman Geisler and several others, he brings up big names like Bill Craig and Craig Blomberg and several others giving a nod.

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