Things I Think…

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  1. Em says:

    Baseball is a great game to watch with a friend… Lots of time to chat. Basketball? Hated playing it or watching it….
    Good thinking – lots to ponder – # 10 👍 👍

  2. Babylon's Dread says:

    I frankly distrust everything and everyone except that lovely frame that rests her head by mine. I wish I was kidding but I am not. Every voice is acting from a self interest that creates suspicion. So I have reduced the noise by reducing my world. Those steps continue. In God’s grace the circle may widen again but if not … it is all ok. (When I see “experts say” in the clickbait of an article I doubly shut down.) I wish it not so but…

  3. Michael says:

    I trust and verify….

  4. Dan from Georgia says:

    Amen #10 – I don’t give a d#%^$ about your politics if you can get me from point A to point B safely….I would hope someone can say this of me as my job does involve transportation and safety.

    – love baseball and my Twins and Byron Buxton is tearing it up early.

    – I have friends who don’t vote like me and they will stay my friends.

  5. Em says:

    “Experts say….”. The big question is, what experts? Who are they?
    BD “that lovely frame?” Your wife? Love it when a man expresses his love for his wife! ! ! 🙏

  6. DH says:

    “experts say”…
    ^Weasel Words.

  7. Captain Kevin says:

    Michael,
    Re: #5, how do you do that? I’m finding just the opposite in my experience.

  8. Dan from Georgia says:

    Like Michael said, trust and verify. It would be tragic to replace me with someone less qualified just because I didn’t give you the information that you wanted to hear. I work in public safety and transportation. I am an expert in what I do.

  9. Jean says:

    “I have not felt for a moment that my “liberty” was taken by masks or Covid19 mitigations…”

    I think some people think of liberty as the right to be un-neighborly, rude, selfish and/or greedy. Luther would refer to that, not as liberty, but as the bondage of the will.

  10. Dan from Georgia says:

    Politics and fellowship seem to be a common “things I think” topic, and I can see why, Micheal. I don’t think that it started in 2016. Have seen it affect me as early as 1996 when an older gentleman told me that he hadn’t spoken to his son in years because his son dared vote for Satan…I.e., the other guy.

  11. Dan from Georgia says:

    #1…what is it with “friends” that ghost you? Meaning, they just cut off contact with you with no explanation (not a politics rant here). Can’t people say why they can’t be your friend anymore?

  12. Duane Arnold says:

    My wife has several friends that she walks with in the neighborhood. One is a very extreme evangelical which never seemed to matter until the other day. My wife mentioned that she had gotten her second vaccination shot. The other woman stopped walking and said, “So you’ve forsaken your faith to take the mark of the beast’. It was a bit of a conversation stopper…

    Wild times out there these days…

  13. Dan from Georgia says:

    Duane,

    Man that’s not good. Sad.

    D

  14. DH says:

    Duane,
    Did your wife get the shots in her right hand or forehead?😄

  15. Em says:

    It’s a rarity, but AMEN to Jean’s 1:11 comment

  16. Randy Davis says:

    I think that a lot of Evangelicals have become pagan.

  17. Dan from Georgia says:

    DH,

    I asked for extra microchips when I got my shot :0 🙂

  18. Duane Arnold says:

    Dan

    You read about stuff like this, but you tell yourself it isn’t true or that it’s exaggerated… until you actually run into it.

  19. CM says:

    Duane,

    After her shot, did she suddenly think that Microsoft Edge was the coolest browser ever and that Windows ME was the best OS ever? 😀

  20. Dan from Georgia says:

    That’s true Duane. I remember bringing this particularity up a few months back and was scoffed at by one poster here. They are out there.

  21. Em says:

    R.D. I don’t think one can be evangelical AND pagan
    But one can be an ignorant evangelical – how God views that, i don’t know for certain, but wasn’t it Paul who said, “Brethren, i would not have you ignorant?”
    We need more uncompromising teachers

  22. Dan from Georgia says:

    CM,

    Windows ME? Geez how long was that around? I remember the debacle of Windows 7.

  23. Michael says:

    CK,
    I focus on the joys big and tiny that I find through a day…and enjoy them as much as I am able…

  24. CM says:

    Dan from GA,

    This quote from Isaac Asimov comes to mind:

    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

  25. Randy Davis says:

    I also think we share too much information on social media. No one needs to know my politics or if I have been vaccinated or not. If the extremists are ignored maybe they will go away. Or they may firebomb us.

  26. bob1 says:

    “So you’ve forsaken your faith to take the mark of the beast’

    Wow. Just wow.

    Duane, hope your wife recovered after the shock…

  27. CM says:

    Dan,

    Windows ME was the follow-on Windows 98SE (and it debuted around the Millenium).

    MS had 2 OS Families until they were merged (more or less) in the mid 2000s.

    MS-DOS >> MS Windows 3.1 > Windows 95 >> Windows 98 >> 98SE >> ME (for PCs)

    Windows NT 3.5 >>>>Win 2000 (for servers and workstations) >>> Windows Server (not sure what version)

    Each was based upon a different kernel, and eventually they opted to merge the trees since nobody needs to run Real Mode MS-DOS anymore. I am sure some of the old-time software / IT types can add/correct/edit my comment here.

    MS windows has gone from Win2000 >> XP >> Vista >> Windows 7 >> 8.0/8.1 >> 10 in the 21st century.

    Windows ME has the reputation as perhaps the worst MS Windows ever (followed closely by Vista).

  28. Duane Arnold says:

    Bob1

    This goes to Michael’s #3… The friend of my wife goes to the satellite of a local mega-church. My wife has gone out of her way never to mention politics and always to highlight the common and shared areas of faith. In the end, it didn’t matter. I think that was the shock.

  29. Randy Davis says:

    EM, my point is they aren’t evangelical anymore by standard theological definitions. But you can be both. Puritan settlers were traditionally evangelical and believed in witches. Some Christians believe in magic. Ignorance allows people to hold two or more incongruent ideas in their mind.

  30. DH says:

    Dan from Georgia,
    Funny.
    I think a Covid Passport would be moving us closer to the mark than a virus shot. jmo

  31. Dan from Georgia says:

    CM…that’s right, I meant Vista, not Windows 7.

  32. Dan from Georgia says:

    DH,

    Just for the record…I am not on board with a COVID passport.

    DL

  33. Dan from Georgia says:

    Good quote CM. Really applies today, especially as so many people walk around claiming to be experts (that’s where I balk at the term expert) because they cherry-picked some online blogs/YouTube videos. Takes a certain humility to say, hey, I don’t have the answer to that.

  34. Em says:

    Randy D . I’m an evangelical who believes in demons and Satan and i know there are evil people who follow pagan rituals and call themselves (good!) Witches. Good? Impossible! ! !

    Again … Oh, how the Church needs more good teachers

  35. Jean says:

    The easiest, least expensive (the cost is $0.00), and most effective act of charity that Americans can do as a collective is to get vaccinated against Covid-19. Hundreds of thousands of lives and tens of millions of jobs are in the balance. If we want more of the economy to open, if we want more in person learning, if we want greater economic prosperity, if we want more national security, then get vaccinated ASAP.

    Meanwhile, follow CDC guidelines when out in public.

  36. bob1 says:

    All of this disdain for relying on experts means we instead rely on any Tom, Dick or Harry who grabs our attention.

    I see a parallel with Dostoevsky’s comment that when people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing — they’ll believe in anything.

    Not that experts are God, of course. Besides, that’s not the point.

    But nature — and our brains, apparently — seem to abhor a vacuum.

  37. Babylon's Dread says:

    I am not sure what I would replace the present government with but I am sure there would be LESS of it in the replacement I added… much less. Humans make laws every time someone makes a mess.

    Someone Ought To Do Something Dread

  38. Babylon's Dread says:

    No I quite like experts and want them in my life…

    And I hate invoking them for stopping debate. Most of us would agree on that.

    Example… are the CDC experts on the mitigations was Derek Chauvin and expert on restraining the suspect… ‘expert’ testimony backed him up today.

    I will stop short of asking our expert panel if Chauvin is guilty of murder.

    But with Em I affirm evangelical ideas and demonic powers exist and pagans do too.

    Two Things at Once Dread

  39. Linn says:

    #6-7 Yesterday I had an email from two friends (a married couple) who are licensed physicians (now retired) praising the healing powers of HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE (aka Plaquenil) and the dangers of COVID-19 vaccines. It included a 25 page “scientific” paper by America’s Frontlines Doctors, who are considered unreliable on virus information by other well-known medical organizations. I promptly deleted it, but I keep wondering what happened? They both had practices that were well-known and appreciated by our community, and I have no idea how they reached this point of what I consider to be medical quackery. All I felt I could do was delete the email.

  40. BrideofChrist says:

    My closest friends got very weird on the phone when I innocently told her that I had gotten my first Covid vaccine. Her voice raised a pitch and I heard several questionable statements, including ” There are respected doctors who say not to get the vaccine “. I sighed and changed the subject. What is going on here? Both my daughters, their husbands, my father, and many of my other friends have been vaccinated. We are making plans to SEE each other, and HUG each other, without masks, in the coming months!

  41. Jean says:

    “are the CDC experts on the mitigations was Derek Chauvin and expert on restraining the suspect… ‘expert’ testimony backed him up today.”

    Yes. No.

    Chauvin was not an expert on restraining the suspect. His training was in the application of lawful restrains, but neither his education, nor his job description, qualified him as an expert.

    The prosecution and defense were “experts” but in a particular context: They were experts FOR a side. They were selected and paid to apply their expertise, not in an objective manner, but as an advocate for one side in the trial.

    The jury has the duty to judge both (1) the credentials and credibility of the experts, and (2) the veracity of their their conclusions.

    The CDC, on the other hand, is YOUR expert on Covid mitigations. They serve YOU, are paid by YOU, go to work for YOU, and apply their expertise to protect YOU.

    Criminal trial experts apply their expertise to a concrete past event. The CDC experts apply their expertise to a fluid, evolving, ongoing event. Like a President or Senator or Congressman, CDC experts have been called to serve our nation. Our nation will prosper or fail in large measure based on both our government and the will of its people to be governed.

    It’s sad and completely stupid (IMO) for anyone to question either the expertise or the dedication to the American people of our leading Covid scientists, including Fauci and leaders of the CDC.

    For the Trump lovers here: How was Fauci or the CDC to know back in late 2019, very early 2020, that Trump would come out against science, would promote the self-going away of the virus, would reject masks, would promote superstitious cures, etc.? How could they have predicted this, if it was their intention to diminish him?

    If Fauci had that power, he would be on par with the illustrious alumni of Bethel Church and its School of Supernatural Ministry.

    Fauci is simply a public servant, an expert with a relevant education and decades of experience with viruses and epedemics, someone who loves his country, and someone who has taken an oath to serve us to the best of his ability.

  42. Michael says:

    Just saw a Facebook post claiming the vaccine removes the “God” gene…

  43. Dan from Georgia says:

    Michael,

    That figures…Facebook. Very reliable source.

    I think that person jumped the shark.

    I hear people say that everyone has a voice that needs to be heard.

    That Facebook post proves that not everyone deserves a listen.

  44. Jean says:

    What on earth is the God gene? I’m out of the loop.

  45. Michael says:

    Jean,

    Theoretically, it’s the genetic predisposition to believe in God…

  46. Randy Davis says:

    The god gene is supposed to be the source of the soul. We know it’s not true because the soul of resides in the tonsils.

  47. The New Victor says:

    Is the God gene scientific proof of Calvinism?

    The comment about the mark of ThE bEaSt, good grief. I would have a hard time not trolling such a person.

    Can’t wait to get my 5G chip so I can ditch my cell phone.

  48. Captain Kevin says:

    “Just saw a Facebook post claiming the vaccine removes the “God” gene…”

    Oh Buh-ruh-therrrr!!!

  49. bob1 says:

    It’s gotta be fear.

  50. Babylon’s Dread says:

    Are the CDC experts in mitigation? Of course they are and that does not prevent them being incompetent, errant, nefarious and politicized. Was Chauvin an expert at restraining suspects? Of course he was and that does not prevent him being incompetent, errant, nefarious and politicized. And yes an expert was called to defend his expertise.

    Nevertheless I want experts in medicine dentistry and plumbing to help me variously.

    The media? Yes they tell us what ‘experts’ are saying and we automatically assume they are shaping a story because that is their true expertise.

    Expert Dread

  51. DH says:

    BD,
    I specialize in medicine, dentistry, and plumbing, what do you need.
    DH PdH.

  52. Babylon’s Dread says:

    500 years ago Luther was on trial before the experts in Catholic theology at the Diet of Worms.

    Recanting Dread

  53. DH says:

    Dread,
    What do we do when the experts disagree?

  54. Duane Arnold says:

    Just as a note, expertise does not equal infallibility… but it does indicate a certain level of competence.

  55. JD says:

    Many have tasted of the heavenly gift, but never reclined at the table for the meal. One got up from the table to leave, and satan entered into him.

  56. CM says:

    A “god” gene? SMDH…

    It makes about as much logical sense as a “sin gene”. In fact, a “sin gene” is _MORE_ logical. God could have easily turned on a dormant gene to the human genome as part of the curse. This gene would have been passed down throughout all of humanity throughout history. The Holy Spirit could have easily turned off this gene as part of the Incarnation. On a side note, the effect of this active gene would be to shorten telomeres (or minimizes the amounts / effectiveness of telomerese), which is why all those people in the early OT era lived for hundreds of years).

    So there you go.

  57. JD says:

    How about this one:
    “I’ve got Jesus’s blood flowing through my veins.”
    I suppose that means they have Jesus’s DNA also.
    Did Jesus have human DNA? The expert David Hocking says no. I guess he tested some blood evidence from the Holy Shroud surreptitiously stolen on a trip to Italy.
    Who was it that said “There’s a sucker born again every minute”?
    I really want to know the answer. Facebook is a sucker magnet. IMO

  58. Xenia says:

    The expert David Hocking says no.<<<

    David Hocking is a heretic.

    He came to my old Calvary Chapel many years ago to give a series of talks. I was the one running his PowerPoint slides. After the service, he was chatting with the pastor and me and made the heretical statement: "Christ was not born from one of Mary's eggs." My pastor (not a heretic) asked him "Where to you get that idea?" and Hocking said "Read your Bible."

    If Christ was not born from one of Mary's eggs, then He was not fully human. He was not a member of the human race. He was not one of us, He would have been a total alien being. He could not have saved us. I dare not theorize exactly how Christ's body was formed in Mary's womb but I do know this: She was really and truly His mother, not just an incubator.

  59. Xenia says:

    This is Hocking’s heresy by name:

    “Valentinianism taught that Holy Spirit deposited the Christ Child in her womb and that Mary was the a surrogate mother, but not truly Christ’s genetic mother. Valentinian the Gnostic (d. 160) taught that the Son of God passed through Mary like water through a straw. The Apostle Paul refutes this when he writes, “God sent His Son, made of a woman.” -Taylor Marshall

    It is a gnostic belief.

  60. CM says:

    Xenia,

    I guess Hocking doesn’t believe that Christ was fully man, and denies the Hypostatic Union. A damnable heresy on the flip side of what the Arians believed about Christ being fully God.

  61. CM says:

    Typo there. Arians believing about Christ NOT being fully God.

  62. Em says:

    So sad to read that there are those professing to be Believers who do not see WHY God entering into man’s humanity was the only way that our sin debt could be negated IF we confess and accept this incredible gift from God

  63. Linnea says:

    Regarding how people behave online. The internet environment seems to provide a certain degree of anonymity, and so people behave without a filter. Funny though, I think we’re seeing the same dynamic with masks–we can’t discern a reaction and behave in a way we might now normally. My hypothesis is that there is a correlation between online and masked behavior.

  64. Michael says:

    Linnea,
    I was thinking the same thing yesterday…

  65. Linn says:

    I don’t think masks can be blamed for uncivilized online behavior. Many of those who are the most uncouth online oppose masks! Masks are what they are…a barrier to keep us free from germs, or to protect others from ours. They are a necessary evil for the time being. If people are kind and friendly, you can usually (not always) tell when their eyes crinkle and light up above the mask. I am more careful to greet people verbally now, just to let them know that I care about them.

  66. Muff Potter says:

    CM @ 06:30 am,
    You’re the only other person I’ve heard say this kind of thing besides myself.
    Usually ,’sin’ is just some disembodied concept derived from Augustine’s ‘original sin’ shtick, and allegedly ‘passed on’ from the fall of humankind (doctrine of original sin).
    When Hocking says “read your Bible”, I want to tell him that I have, and don’t come up with the same conclusions.

  67. CM says:

    Muff,

    The point of my post was to show those anti-vaxxers who think there is a “God” gene that logically, a “sin gene” makes more sense one follows their reasoning. It was to illustrate the absurdity of their argument. I do not believe there a “sin” gene any more than there is a “God” gene. Science cannot tell us about the origin of evil and the Virgin Birth any more than the Bible can tell us about astrophysics, geology, or atmospheric physics.

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