Touching The Lord’s Anointed

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33 Responses

  1. Stephen says:

    Good read. Thank you.

    Yet, I’m curious:. Was there anything in particular that prompted this article?

  2. Michael says:

    Stephen,

    That’s a good question.

    I had published part of it before and wanted to finish it…and just felt compelled to do so today.

  3. filbertz says:

    perhaps that should be a warning to anyone in ministry who wants to defraud, molest, lie to, slander, manipulate, or have sex with one of the ‘flock.’ It seems that would be a more honest interpretation of the phrase.

    shoe-on-the-other-foot-fil

  4. dusty says:

    shoe-on-the-other-foot-fil, filbertz, Great words, aman!!!!!
    (still praying for you)

  5. dusty says:

    great article big brother!! Well done, again!
    (still praying for you too)

  6. dusty says:

    as it turned out cs was no prophet as he thought he was! we all knew he wasn’t.

  7. Michael says:

    Thank you, Dusty!

  8. John 20:29 says:

    absolutely on target – every word
    being used of God to accomplish a task should be sobering and humbling, not a signal that one has carte blanche or is above the reproach of the rest of the Church… who, as noted here, are also “anointed” 🙂

  9. Kevin H says:

    I think Carson Wentz is the anointed one to take the Eagles to the Super Bowl. All the other teams should keep their hands off him and do him no harm.

    Now, I’m not taking anything out of context, am I? 🙂

  10. Michael says:

    Kevin H,

    I think you should write a full article on the matter… 🙂

  11. CostcoCal says:

    I wanna write an article on how quickly the NFL is circling the drain.

    I’d never dreamed of it growing up as a kid.

  12. CostcoCal says:

    …by “write on article”, I was speaking hyperbole. 🙂

  13. Michael says:

    The NFL “circling the drain” is hyperbole from people with an ax to grind.

    A lot of factors affect ratings…but the NFL is fine.

  14. CostcoCal says:

    It certainly is not the NFL I watched growing up.

    Not even close.

  15. CostcoCal says:

    …and the word getting out now is that Goodell will not have his contract renewed.

  16. Michael says:

    They’ve got years left on both the CBA and TV contracts.
    Those are the main things you look at for financial stability.
    Gear sales are fine.

    Ratings are climbing again and will even out…it’s been a tough year for injuries and some of the national matches have been dogs.

    The kneeling noise will be over with sooner than later and life goes on.

    It’s not the NFL I grew up with either…because that was the 1960’s and this isn’t.

  17. CostcoCal says:

    Thing often not noted in this kneeling mess…

    Instant replay is killing momentum in a game.

    Safety rules, even if necessary, is also affecting it.

    No one likes 3 and half hour games.

    But…the Niners got a new QB!

  18. Michael says:

    Costco,

    Any thoughts on the actual topic of the article?

  19. CostcoCal says:

    “Don’t touch the Lord’s anointed”…

    While he is still pulpit, it is illegal to hit the anointed pastor above the shoulders or below the knees….

  20. CostcoCal says:

    I do think that if a pastor or church leader does choose to expose himself outside of his own congregation, via internet, radio, or television; then he does expose himself to websites such as yours. This is no longer the 1990’s. How someone such as yourself chooses to expose which pastor is between you and God.

  21. Steve says:

    Thanks for finishing this article. It would be great if some prominent CCA pastors would correct the late Chuck Smith on his abuse of this phrase and not make the same mistake over and over again. But I have only heard crickets.

  22. Duane Arnold says:

    Michael

    Looking at your two most recent articles the “abnormality” of these situations just seem to scream out. I may be unusual here, but I am used to not for profits and churches having boards that govern. In a number of churches, the pastor may chair the board, but in a real sense the pastor is also accountable to the board. In some churches the board members are elected at annual meetings, while in other churches (fewer) they are appointed. They usually include a vice-chair, a treasurer (with a financial background – accountant, investment, etc.) and a secretary for keeping minutes of monthly meeting. Also, the boards usually seek out people with particular expertise, such as a lawyer or two, people who have expertise in property and building, etc.. Related family members on such a board are not usually allowed.

    It would seem to me that if a simply normal approach were taken with regard to board responsibilities, many of the abuses of authority and misuse of money could be avoided. Nothing works as well as “normal”. It also encourages an atmosphere of mutual accountability, whether in a not for profit or a church.

  23. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I think the greatest question one can ask when searching out churches is “How often do you have member voter’s meetings?” The reply would tell you a lot.Some will stare at you like a deer caught in the headlights.
    Once you get the answer, then evaluate their doctrine etc.

  24. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Another question might be – “does the pastor have access to the church checkbook?”

  25. Michael says:

    I think both Duane and MLD have spoken wisely…

  26. Kevin H says:

    So I imagine there must be some shouting of not touching the Lord’s anointed in this whole PFM mess that has prompted the re-posting of this article. At the very least, we have seen some shades of it by some commenters.

    Additionally, after reviewing the previous comments in this thread, I must confess I was wrong about who the anointed one was. Turned out to be Nick Foles and not Carson Wentz. 🙂

  27. Bob Sweat says:

    I miss Costco Cal☹️

  28. Em says:

    Amen
    There is so much misapplication of the O.T.

  29. Corby says:

    To me, what begs the question when people use this verse (incorrectly), is why does one assume that (whoever) is the Lord’s anointed in that capacity anyway? Even if one were able to use this phrase to defend a person who was the Lord’s anointed in a specific time/place/role (which I believe God does call people to serve in a time/place/role and one could call them the Lord’s anointed in a sense but not the one these verses lay out in context), what is the test? Some people believe Joel Osteen to be the Lord’s anointed and clearly they are wrong.

    Basically, I could claim that a teaching pastor or discipler who had a profound impact on me to be the Lord’s anointed. To some people, The Rozell’s are the Lord’s anointed. But that is completely subjective. If you want to be more objective, some would argue that a person/people wouldn’t have the position that they do (senior pastor, ministry leader/founder) if the Lord were not putting that person there. Seem’s objective, but it’s also false in the sense they want to use it. King Nebuchadnezzar is called by God Himself His anointed servant, someone who clearly didn’t follow God in his heart when conquering Israel (also His anointed). In that sense, anyone God puts in authority is God’s anointed (Romans?).

    The expression has a wide semantic range.

    Back to my original point. The assumption those who throw this phrase around typically make is that their hero is the Lord’s specially called and anointed person, and no one had better attack them. In a broad principle sense, I would agree. One shouldn’t attack something God is doing or someone God is using. BUT, one needs to be able to examine (objectively) if the thing in question is actually from God in that sense, or not. Maybe they/it are/was for a time. Maybe that time has passed.

    Bottom line, people need to hang on to heroes lightly and Jesus tightly.

  30. Duane Arnold says:

    Two years later, I’m still saying the same thing…

  31. Eric says:

    It would be interesting to track this usage of these verses. It happened here and there in the pentecostal world, so I wonder who did it first.

    I had just considered it bad usage of OT, but as you point out even the OT example was David ruling out touching Saul with a weapon and instead humbly but publicly rebuking him. But usually when this verse had been pulled out, it is not in response to violence but to criticism.

    This site continues to be a good contemporary example of raising one’s tongue appropriately against God’s errant shepherds.

  32. Pineapple Head says:

    Was I freaked out that there were CostcoCal comments? Yes. Yes I was. 🙁

  33. The concept is a bad example. Look what happened to Saul, not to mention the many wicked kings of Israel and Judah, annointed into kingship.

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