Update On Beach Cities Calvary Chapel

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  1. nancy says:

    Praying!!!

  2. jlo says:

    praying

  3. Not Alone says:

    Not holding my breath……

  4. Isaiah56:1 says:

    May they have discernment and courage and may they choose righteousness over all else.
    It is not easy to be responsible for a decision where either way you go a large group will consider you wrong. May they be able to set that aside and consider the children and the Word of God and choose not to compromise.

  5. Please Note says:

    Praying for all to honor God as they each carry out their call to service.

  6. filbertz says:

    ‘you have not, because you ask not.’

    here’s to removing that possibility…I’m praying!

  7. Believe says:

    Not Alone, roger that.

    Praying God’s will be done in the BCC debacle. It will ultimately bring him glory…if not now…at Judgment.

  8. purposeman says:

    It appears that there are still some at BCC that believe that Jim still carries some anointing from God. How they do, I don’t understand. There is definitely an anointing there, but I don’t believe it is from God. We must pray that God will open the eyes of the blind that they might see. God’s people have often fallen into this trap. People want things to be as they were, even if it was a “fantasyland” or facade. They choose not to believe what they see or hear.
    The Lord said to Isaiah… (Isa 6:9) And He said, Go and tell this people, Keep on hearing, but do not understand, Keep on seeing , but do not perceive, make the heart of this people dull, and their ears heavy, and shut their eyes, lest they see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and return and be healed.”
    Isaiah asks how long this will continue and the Lord until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant.

    It has been my prayer that utter destruction is not in God’s plan for Jim Kempner, his board, and those that choose not to believe. Abraham told Lot to leave Sodom and Gomorrah and take his family with him. Lot’s wife looked back and was destroyed (turned to salt). We all have a choice and we will be responsible for the decisions we make. Unfortunately for leadership, the consequences and liability are HUGE. May God have mercy on their souls!

  9. Matt says:

    This verse gives us balance in our judgments.

    John 8:7 (King James Version)

    7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

  10. Em says:

    Lord, help us to understand grace. Help us to love when sin infests the life of one of Your children; to see clearly how to show love and, yet, stand firm for the integrity of Your name above all our affections when doing so. Praying…

  11. Believe says:

    Purposeman, I agree with your post.

    Matt, yours, too.

    God is the ultimate judge…and we all sin and fall short of the glory of God.

    Em, we are to show grace and love…and to have Scripture be our guide regarding integrity. 1 Timothy 3 and 1 Timothy 5.

    Reconciliation can only come with repentance. Justification can only come through belief and repentance.

    Is it the sin of unbelief to be a pastor and remain in sin…especially when confronted?

  12. Believe says:

    …regarding “pastoral” integrity.

  13. Shilo says:

    So, any word what happened, if anything?

  14. Bada Bing says:

    I really don’t understand why people outright reject 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 about the qualifications of overseers. God over man. Bible over man. God doesn’t need any of us, so we are all expendable if we no longer qualify.

  15. Not Alone says:

    Bada Bing said, “I really don’t understand why people outright reject 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 about the qualifications of overseers. God over man. Bible over man. God doesn’t need any of us, so we are all expendable if we no longer qualify.”

    IMO, just my opinion from observation, that the calling has become a career. When you turn the church into a business, then the interpretation of the mission statement can be manipulated by the CEO, to fit his needs and keep him in power. It is nothing more than the arrogance of leadership is conveniently forgetting that their position is one of service for the wisp of time that they are here. No matter how well they serve in other areas, their true colors show in how they deal with their mistakes.

  16. purposeman says:

    Not Alone,
    I agree with you. It isn’t how you start the race it is how you finish. Paul said, (1 Cor 9:26) “Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly. I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.”

    A pastor has a greater responsibility and a greater judgment. When the focus becomes retaining power, control, the pulpit and a paycheck, then it is hard to see true repentance. The Word says that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks (Matt 6:45). A man will be judged by his words, and will be held accountable for what he says, truth or lie. No one can judge a man’s heart but God. But, I can see what comes out of the man. “Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man (Matt 15:11).

    Matt, my post did not mean that Jimmy Kempner can’t be forgiven or isn’t. I forgive him, as do many others who sat under him, but do not anymore. I do feel that he has disqualified himself. Not just due to the fact that he solicited a prostitute and got caught. But, that he hid it from his board, his wife and his family for over a year. God had to allow this to come out or it wouldn’t have been dealt with (possibly). How Jimmy has handled himself since the discovery, has been deplorable, and has caused many to stumble and continues to do so, most importantly, the children of the school.

    Fortunately, we serve a loving and gracious God. A good father will discipline his child and we are witnessing that right now. I don’t believe it is over yet. Jimmy is still fighting for the position. But, God raises up and He puts down. It is interesting to see what will happen and how He will handle it..

  17. purposeman says:

    Correction: it is Luke 6:45 not Matt 6:45 that references, ” out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

  18. Michael Weintraub says:

    I have known Jimmy and his precious wife Cindy,since 2001.I was counseled soundly by him at a very critical juncture in my life and ministry. Jimmy actually did the wedding ceremony for my wife and I. I Pastor a Church currently in the California High Desert, I have seen Jimmy’s compassion, kindness and heart for evangelism expressed in many ways over the years and tremendous fruit in his life. However, I agree my precious friend must step down based upon his own declarations in the past regarding integrity in ministry. Currently he seems to be more focused on maintaining the church property and pulpit than many other deeper issues. Jimmmy’s theology on GOD’s grace would be.. Well,I am sorry about my sin, I asked God for forgiveness and am ready to move on” However true that this may be, we must look at the reputation required in the community and amongst unbelievers to be an overseer and occupy the pulpit as God’s oracle. Jeremiah 17:9 seems to be in effect in this unfortunate instance. I implore all of you to pray for his restoration to surrender to God’s Word which he so aptly expounded for years and set the captives free that are confused and sustaining him in this expired Pastoral Call for this season in accordance with the infallible word of God! Please search your hearts and check your outrage and anger in alignment with GOD’s call to be merciful. Friends, all can fall, yes leaders are more accountable all the more reason we should be weeping in our prayer closets over such issues not ranting and raving with stones in hand!!I now Brian Broderson and others tried to speak with Jimmy at no avail. I pray Raul Rees and Greg Laurie and others who had significant relationships with Jimmy over the years may be able to reach him. lord have mercy on us all as we carefully contemplate and analyze such issues in the lives of fallible men. Further clarification, Roger,Chuck and others in leadership at Costa Mesa did not know of this issue until a parent of one of the school children brought the information and documentation to Costa Mesa days before the press release. Immediately they moved for a meeting which was refused and than yanked the DOVE!

  19. Michael says:

    Michael,

    Thank you for speaking out and speaking truth to your friend…

  20. Believe says:

    Michael W…thanks for sharing that.

    One of the biggest seeds of doubt the devil plants in lay-people is when the “authority” and infallibility/inerrancy of Scripture doesn’t apply to a Church leader / pastor.

    Kempner denies the authority, infallibility, inerrancy of Scripture by not submitting himself to the Word of God.

    It is a powerful weapon used of the devil when our leaders and their leaders don’t speak out clearly on these issues…and hold pastors to account. It causes doubt and disillusionment in the laity.

    Good for you for speaking out publicly about this and offering some details so as to un-muddy the waters.

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