Death Threats Alleged for Philippine Whistle Blowers

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18 Responses

  1. RiBo says:

    Typical Christian* stuff. Typical responses. Same as Calvary Chapel.

  2. RiBo says:

    The “fruit” is worse than many other people Groups, which should tell you something…but it won’t b/c Christianity* is largely and apologetic based on very weak arguments and appeals to text as “God said!” depending on the Christian* sect you belong to.

    I don’t think we have any clue who God is and isn’t and I think Christianity* itself is exhibit A that testifies to this fact.

    It is what it is.

    Don’t pretend to know, you’re only fooling yourself.

    If God is in fact real, you won’t find very much of him or it in most Church constructs…and especially not in its leadership.

  3. Muff Potter says:

    RiBo wrote:

    I don’t think we have any clue who God is and isn’t…

    Really? Here’s a link that shows who God is via Romans 2:12-16 in real life theatre.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/07/teen-saves-baby-deer_n_4741268.html

  4. lalaine c. mirasol says:

    ” FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF EVIL ” please pray for our country PHILIPPINES not all are corrupt but most are… because of personal interest… children are suffering….. Mr. Tom Randal and your followers how could you bail the abusers and using God’s money?????

  5. Anne says:

    Thank you, Michael, for covering these painful stories. The Phillipines are not unique in allowing bail for the suspects of these and worse crimes. One especially horrific case I worked in , where we had lots of physical evidence against the perp of his 7 yo step daughter, he was bailed out by the mother. A horrendously hard process to get a conviction including the wee on having to testify in front of a jury – such bravery, yet I fear even more damage. After the conviction, victim was sent to live with relatives cross country, and after 2 short years the monster was back home in the good graces of his wife, buddies and others WHO BLAMED THE CHILD for taking advantage of him!!!! That those who claim to follow Christ, to have the Holy Spirit inside them, to be heirs to the truth and eternal life, to partake in the same victim blaming, reporter shaming and utter lack of compassion for young lives and reap the support of their thousands of bible buddies, sickens me a such an extreme I can barely breathe through it sometimes. There are proven methods of prevention, but as we were warned as novice social workers, there is no money in prevention – though cheaper than treatment & punishment, those extra expenses AFTER the damage is done lines the pockets of public and private institutions, prisons, lawyers, privatized foster warehouses, etc. If states, counties let us use resources to focus on safety, prevention and early intervention so many young lives could be saved. But that wyould mean less bueracracies, less $$$ that can be made addressing the problems downstream instead of upstream. Arghhhh!

  6. Anne says:

    In one commentary I came across recently (too tired to find now) regarding the phenomena of the early church drawing followers to Christ, it was postulated that their success was due mainly because of the early believers care for others in their poverty and need. Recognizing that in that era there were only a few “haves” and multitudes of “have nots” that makes statistical sense. As church history progressed, so many believers were responsible for hospitals, reforms in prisons, mental health, poor houses, slavery on and on. Why is the church impotent now? Because if half the energy and resources that are spent on buildings, books, entertainment disguised as evangelism, the publishing, buying and selling of fluffy make you feel spiritual books, so called christian music, etc etc – if all the time and money spent on maintaining buildings and franchises were invested in meeting people at the point of their greatest need – THAT would be real reformation and revival that might be a beacon of light, a true saving grace for the world. A pox I say on those who use fronts of orphanages, homeless shelters, to line their own pockets and impress their congregations. Don’t even ask me to tell you all how I really feel :mrgreen:

  7. Bip says:

    My wife and I eat at a local restaurant that has a Philippine waitress that we have gotten to know well over the last five years. This waitress still has family in the Philippines and periodically goes back home to visit them.

    She has told us that if you want to get anything done in the Philippines it always takes bribes of cash which always gets results. It is how things are done over there and no one does not participate in some level of the corruption.

    She is there now trying to help her family members get a new home constructed after the recent flooding destroyed their family home. She told us that she will have to bribe the proper authorities to be able to complete her task of getting her family in shelter. Everyone involved in the process has their hand out for the extra income beyond the normal fees incurred to build a home.

    She accepts this knowing that it is just how things are done in the Philippines. The sums required for the bribes are nominal and not to harsh for the most part, just another tax of sorts.

    Knowing this, the truth about what actually has happened with these men may never be brought to light since the Church involved has more then enough cash to bribe those involved it would seem…

  8. Nonnie says:

    Bip, what the waitress is saying is true, however, SHE is most likely not “bribing” officials, but rather paying extortion fees to them. I think there is a huge difference. If someone is first to offer money to persuade a person to do something for them, that is a bribe. However, if someone applies for a building permit and the official says, “I will give it to you, if you buy me a 50 pound bag a rice, or if you give me a certain amount of money,” then that is extortion. (not bribery) That is what so often happens, and is even built into the system, by calling it an “expediting fee” or “handling fee.” When we applied for our first visa renewal, there was a new section that said we needed a “medical” permit , which included blood and stool samples. Of course we knew it had to be done to get our visas. So we collected the needed paper work, and asked what Doctor or lab we were to report to. They sent us down the hall to a desk. We handed in our paper work and the clerk asked if we wanted to expedite it, and we said yes, figuring the sooner we could get our visas, the better. It was an additional $10 and we paid the fee, then expected to see a doctor. Instead, she stamped the paper work and said we now had our medical permits. That was in a government office! The exact thing happened when we got our drivers’ licenses. We needed a medical permit, told to go to the desk, pay the money and got the medical permit! This is built into the system.

    It is the rich and powerful that offer bribes and the poor or those without the power that pay extortion.

  9. Anne says:

    “It is the rich and powerful that offer bribes and the poor or those without the power that pay extortion.” Exactly.

  10. e.wright says:

    I am married to a Filipino and I have family and friends in the Philippines. We have built a house there and spend a lot of time there. It is possibe to get things done without paying bribes or fees to help the process along. However, it does take longer. Real estate transactions can be a painful experience. It seems to me they don’t have very good records at times. We are negotiating the system and waiting for results. Something as simple as subdividing family land can take months. There are many Filipinos who hate the corruption. It pains me to see people characterize all Filipinos as corrupt. We have just as much corruption in the US as they do in Philippines.

  11. Gotta get another post up so this guy’s creepy picture does not stare at me when I bring up this site. PRAYING for Things I Think to arrive and save us.

  12. kayfabe83@yahoo.com says:

    These Men making death threats and putting this WOLF above the welfare of Children are FAKE ASS CHRISTIANS!

  13. Michael says:

    BD,

    I’m working on it…

  14. Nonnie says:

    e.Wright, paying bribes vs paying extortion are 2 different things and sadly, it is rare that one can get by in that culture w/o paying extortion, whether knowingly or not . Of course many Filipinos hate it, but sadly it is so ingrained into the system.

  15. kevinh15 says:

    C’mon, Michael, think faster. I only get one lunch break. 🙂

  16. Bip says:

    Nonnie,
    Thank you for the clarification of my semantics. Your story is one that I have heard about anyone wanting to get things done in Argentina as well. I knew a couple who had purchased a big rig truck in the USA and wanted to start a trucking business in Argentina where they planned to move back to (They were Argentina nationals). As long as they gave up enough cash to extended palms things went smoothly. But it still took them three years to accomplish their goal.

  17. theFilipinAsian says:

    Is the Free Tom Randall facebook page deleted…..or did I get blocked for commenting on an earlier blog here??

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