Chuck Missler Has Died

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  1. Michael says:

    I didn’t realize that comments were closed,my apologies.
    It’s not good to speak ill of the dead and Missler has little lasting influence, so I will just note his death in passing…

  2. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I am sure the Missler was a fine person and may he RIP. I disagreed with his theology when it came to the end times stuff. I don’t consider him a dispensationalist as I doubt he was trained that way, but he was the typical rapture theology type and I will give him his due, he represented the position well.
    If you ever want to know what rapture theology teaches about end times – the future of Israel, the temple and sacrificial system and end times timing you can do no better than to plug in a Missler tape.

    In the 80s he worked closely with Don Stewart

  3. Michael says:

    Make sure to check out his work on the Nephilim and aliens as well…I would never suggest that anyone read anything he or his wife wrote. Ever.

  4. Steve says:

    Some of Missler’s physics lectures were quite captivating but I agree some of his conjectures especially in theology were quite bizarre. I still have his book “Learn the Bible in 24 hours” which I found somewhat useful. RIP Chuck.

  5. Tim says:

    Really? How do you know he he has little lasting influence?

  6. Michael says:

    Tim,

    He’s part of the old Calvary Chapel days and you simply couldn’t sell much of his weird stuff today.

    The passing of guys like this is difficult for me to comment on with grace…we have a history.

    May he rest in peace…

  7. EricL says:

    Well, he missed his two big predictions: Y2K and the Rapture.
    Why did he move to New Zealand 8 years ago? Family? Fleeing the awful stuff he predicted? Slightly curious.

  8. Michael says:

    EricL,

    I can’t remember…I tried not to think about him much at all…

  9. Corbachev says:

    In 1992 Chuck came and spoke at a church I was attending while going to college in Seattle. His talks on the integrated nature of the Bible, how things interconnect in the Old and New Testaments, patterns in scripture, these are the things that inspired me to want to be a Bible teacher. I found them so exciting. They got me into the Bible like never before and it was evidently apparent to my friends because I was living out scripture like I never had before. The Spirit brought God’s word to life in me, and say what you will, it was because of Chuck Missler.

    If nothing else, Chuck wasn’t afraid to explore any idea and he encouraged that fearless exploration in others, even if you came to different conclusions. It was his personal challenge to everyone to chase things down for yourself and not believe anything from anyone out of hand that I think should be one of his lasting legacies. I know it is in my life.

  10. Tim says:

    Okay Michael 🙂

  11. Kevin H says:

    EricL,

    I remember reading or hearing some years back that Missler had some changes in his beliefs about the Rapture. He was still pre-trib/pre-mill and held to the Rapture, but some specifics changed such as I think he believed that only seriously spiritual Christians would be raptured and the “less spiritual” ones would get left behind with the unbelievers. These changes apparently caused him to lose favor with some in Calvary Chapel, as of course you know, messing with the Rapture is almost akin to heresy to some in CC. I don’t know if these changes in circumstance have anything to do with him moving to New Zealand, but it does make me wonder if it played a role being that a large base of his platform and popularity was through CC that he may have then lost to some degree.

    Besides that, I don’t know much of the man. I heard him speak a couple times and found him to be both interesting and strange. The topics he spoke on struck me more as distractions, more than anything else.

    I imagine the man loved the Lord and his ministry had some positive impacts as Corby personally attests to. May he now be enjoying the presence of his Savior.

  12. Tim says:

    My wife read Nancy Misslers book ‘Way of Agape’ 20 years ago and she would say it was instrumental in saving our marriage.
    Resources we draw from these days have changed a bit.

  13. Chuck used to be pretty big up here in the Coeur d’Alene (where Koinonia House is located), but after he moved to NZ, he pretty much fell off the radar. Because of his CDA roots, I understand there will be a memorial service here in North Idaho, I only bumped into his work in a fringe sort of way, never really grabbed me. His penchant toward plagiarism wasn’t helpful.

  14. Michael says:

    I won’t dispute that some may have found something spiritually valuable in his work.

    I was positively impacted by Jimmy Swaggart at one point in my life…

  15. Babylon's Dread says:

    Chuck amused me by all of his allusions to stuff he couldn’t tell us. I was certain that all of that was smoke and mirrors.

  16. Michael says:

    I went down Missler memory lane for a few minutes…that was all I could take.

  17. John 20:29 says:

    FWIW….
    Someone mentioned Y2K? In olden times programming required saving as much memory as was possible… instead of saving 1988, the date inputed was allowed just 2 characters: 88. Business being bottom line oriented (and then very computer ignorant) wasn’t about to update their perfectly good systems with expensive new ones. It is obvious that there was a problem with old software still in use at the turn of the century – if your birth date had been recorded as 57, now you’d be spit out of the system as not yet born… not to mention financial record problems… We didn’t have a disaster thanks to some very dedicated hard working folk in the 1990s.

    RIP indeed, Mr. Missler. Precious few wise, mighty or noble men are called out of their carnal lives to love and serve God. A place where human intelligence is almost a handicap…

    My understanding (could be wrong) was that when the Missler’s material success went south the Christian community that they’d been associated with (CC? I dont know) abandoned him… God didn’t.
    I didn’t follow his teaching career as i didnt find him gifted to teach … dunno But the man loved God and the Faith, of that i have no doubt…

    I know quite a few people, mostly cerebral tyoes, from the 1960s on, who’d have moved to New Zealand in a heartbeat, if they could, including my late husband and my youngest daughter

  18. j2theperson says:

    I was much more saddened when Art Bell died.

  19. John 20:29 says:

    #15 – think “military industrial complex” … Back then the industrial end of things were run by men like Missler and an uncle of mine, a little higher up the food chain than Missler, who,sworn to secrecy, take to their graves knowledge of behind the scenes machinations – even outdated facts. “My lips are sealed” meant just that. Their view of integrity, i guess… Or maybe they’d be shot LOL dunno. 😌

  20. Josh the Baptist says:

    Don’t know Missler. I assume he was on the far end of the Dispensational tree.

    Funny how death evens it all out. Whatever differences I may have had, or nto, with the man, where he is now they don’t matter at all.

  21. Papias says:

    I benefited from attending Chucks Monday night studies in the Fellowship Hall at CCCM before Greg Laurie started doing his Harvest gatherings in the Main Sanctuary. That was 1987 or so?

    It was from him that I learned how the whole Bible fits together and is one story.

    RIP Chuck.

  22. Josh the Baptist says:

    Paias! Good to see you!

  23. Seraphim says:

    Chuck missler sparked a lot of interest in the Bible by those who normally would not be interested.

    His stuff on the nephilim is interesting and aliens is relevant to this generation of young people who grew constantly being told that aliens are coming.

    I think even Robert Downey Jr (Iron Man) said he was fond of his work. I think he was a bit more influential than you give him credit for.

    He might have been off on a few areas but he was a great teacher who made the Bible relatable to people.

  24. Michael says:

    I could spend an hour listing his bizarre notions…but whatever floats your boat…

  25. John 20:29 says:

    I see a dynamic at work that i don’t know that we can blame the late Missler for creating… CEOs in general are considered more insightful than the rest of us and, in general, i think they believe it themselves – over half the time it is the troops under them, competent people, busting their butts to make things work… fulfilling the vision of the boss
    Could it be that Missler brought his CEO mindset to the Faith, threw out insights that he thought were valid with the subconscious CEO attitude: “seems right to me; lets see if it works?”
    Both contemporary Christianity and science have really been operating on the denial of the supernatural. Things seem to be changing in the God denying scientific world as they explore the ideas of life on other planets and multiple dimensions beyond the traditional – i see that as dangerous, opening the unbeliever to validating the demonic…
    On the other hand, the Believer who is blind to supernatural, to other dimensions is also taking a dangerous stand…. So?
    So, right or wrong in his conjectures, wasn’t Missler right in making us question and search?…. IMV the Bible is a supernatural book able to reveal what our natural eyes can’t see … perhaps, we should question all our teachers, but prayerfully as we do?

  26. Linnea says:

    He was a brother in Christ and deserves our respect, even if we do not agree with his theology.

  27. j2theperson says:

    I disagree that simply being a Christian means a person deserves to be respected.

  28. j2theperson says:

    And I wouldn’t classify the bundle of conspiracy theories and tall tales he believed in as “theology”.

    Out of curiosity, did anything he predict actually happen?

  29. CM says:

    I seem to remember that Chuck Missler was caught on one, if not at least two occasions plagiarizing someone else’s work.

  30. Link07 says:

    My father and I religiously listened to him on the radio until y2k…. we had stuff packed up and ready to go. When it was all said and done that was the first time I realized that not everything on kwve was true, and my dad dialed back the end times fiction books that were common at the time. Either way RIP, nobody gets it right 100% of the time.

  31. Nathan Priddis says:

    @ Michael. I could almost be forgiven for thinking you are not a Missler follower.

    Speaking ill of the dead, was not actually on the two tablets of stone, as is widely believed.
    Why don’t you go ahead and list Missler’s ideas you disapprove of. It could even be a fresh post, so the comment thread is fresh as well.

  32. JD says:

    We lift up the family, friends, and many students of Chuck Missler in prayer.

  33. Michael says:

    Nathan,

    If biblical illiteracy has reached the point where Missler’s bizarre teachings about aliens and the Bible and his horrific splitting of Christians into classes doesn’t immediately cause people concern,then I’m not wasting my time.

    Missler and his fake doctorate only gained prominence because Chuck Smith gave him a platform.

  34. ( |o) ====::: says:

    I had the privilege of leading worship for his studies at CCCM.

    Chuck allowed me complete freedom, sometimes sat quietly & prayerfully, and would joke about my name about 1x/month just to be a kidder.

    It was back in the early days of emails and laptops that I sent him questions about his teaching that the names of the patriarchs, when read in order of appearance in the Torah, translated from the Hebrew to English actually created a Gospel narrative. Wow, what an amazing proof of the intricate design of God engineering the very truth of Jesus into the word of God!

    When my wife and I tried to use our Strong’s concordance to research the teaching it was not as he taught, not even close, so I emailed him…

    …never a response.

    I decided that if a response was not warranted he and I needed to gently & quietly part ways, I mean, who am I to question and I probably got it wrong!?

    Thus ended that worship opportunity.
    =(

  35. Josh the Baptist says:

    Why do you think his LBU Phd is fake?

    (I’m just reading his website)

  36. Michael says:

    Josh,

    At the time Missler got his “doctorate” LBU was an unaccredited online diploma mill.

    It even allowed transfer “credits” from Misslers “university” to them.

    People could also get “credits” by buying one of his books and doing a paper on it.

    Maybe I should start “Phoenix Preacher U”…

  37. ( |o) ====::: says:

    Here’s the teaching…
    http://www.khouse.org/articles/1996/44/

  38. ( |o) ====::: says:

    Michael,
    Try “Phoenix Preacher Vegan Steaks”…

  39. John 20:29 says:

    Michael, not a good idea…. PPU ? 😇

  40. Josh the Baptist says:

    @36 – They are still unaccredited. I didn’t know there reputation. They have a long list of famous people who got degrees from there, so that does seem fishy.

    PPU…Can I teach? 🙂

  41. Michael says:

    Josh,

    As always, you have an open invitation…

  42. Josh the Baptist says:

    Can you give me a doctorate for some of my comments, so I can skip the hard stuff?

  43. Michael says:

    G-man,

    Your story points out one of my big problems with these sorts of “teachers”.

    They don’t get people interested in a real study of scripture, but in some hackneyed twist that makes them feel as if they are now in possession of gnosis…

  44. Michael says:

    Josh,

    We require at lest one article and a donation… 🙂

  45. Kevin H says:

    Josh,

    You already got a trophy a couple years back for making it to the Phoenix Preacher Hall of Fame. Now you want a doctorate, too? The greed of some knows no end. 🙂

    Besides, I think Michael owes me a doctorate first. 🙂

  46. filbertz says:

    I’d settle for a “participation” ribbon. 😉

  47. John 20:29 says:

    Gman’s experience with Missler’s teaching is sad…. Sends my thoughts into what if conjectures… What if someone in the organization culled those emails? What if somehow Gman had been able to persist, to get a face to face and resolve the contradictions being taught… There is danger in being so “important” that you are above question…. RIP lover of the things of God – a merciful God, who has had to clean up messes greater than Missler may have created… IMHO 😊

  48. Josh the Baptist says:

    Kevin, yur Phd will be in Philadelphia fandom 🙂

  49. Michael says:

    My apologies, Dr. Kuhn.
    My printer ran out of ink… 🙂

  50. Michael says:

    fil,

    I’ll bring you one in exchange for lunch… 🙂

  51. filbertz says:

    A vegan steak, medium ripe?

  52. Michael says:

    The bible codes convinced me to only eat meat dishes for lunch… 🙂

  53. Kevin H says:

    Josh,
    I already got one of those PhD’s a long time ago. 🙂

    Michael,
    Good thing that printer ran out of ink. Otherwise, my last name apparently would have been spelled wrong. 🙂

  54. Michael says:

    KevinH,

    My apologies…we awarded a doctorate to Bowie Kuhn posthumously… 🙂

  55. ( |o) ====::: says:

    Michael,
    It’s a case of Missler it backfired because he always encouraged us to do our own homework and be “good Bereans” who checked the scriptures for themselves.
    When we did and the teaching was questioned and stonewalled we decided to find another community of believers led by leadership who welcomed questions and gave timely responses.

    In our case we still fellowship with and serve a community of believers who are willing to admit we question and often cannot find answers for the solid teachings, and we just smile and roll our eyes when anyone brings up the fringe stuff.

  56. ( |o) ====::: says:

    Em,
    Back in those days I had an ethic of daring NOT to question, and it was part of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa ethos during the times of Romaine when he was assistant pastor.

    Over the years I’ve become far more winsome and learned to be a co-participant, and ask in a way that is far more disarming. I’ve learned this from my friends who are Rabbis and working with visiting scholars. Judaism encourages questions and struggling with one’s faith, fundamentalism & evangelicalism not so much.

    Clean up messes? I think if we stopped putting people on high and lofty places in our minds and adopted the idea that we’re all just fellow travelers who discover a well of drinkable water from time to time we’d have less celebrity clergy and more side by side servant role models.

  57. Josh the Baptist says:

    This guy is fascinating…

  58. John 20:29 says:

    #56 – Judaism does indeed encourage questioning. – what better way to learn than ask questions

    We should be ashamed of elevating our teachers and Christian personalities to “lofty places.” On the other hand, we should aim to grow in knowledge to a level that allows us to give respect to our true scholars. Our Faith does have them. ..

    Praying for discernment, em

  59. ( |o) ====::: says:

    Here’s a little more on why it’s hard to nail down the names…

    http://www.khouse.org/articles/2000/284/

    I wonder how many years after the initial question this was posted?

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  60. ( |o) ====::: says:

    Em,
    “Respect” is a scary word in a community of “sheep”.
    “Touch not God’s anointed” will immediately follow.

  61. John 20:29 says:

    This is an interesting thread…. I suspect that God (maybe Missler, too) is pleased with the attitude and honesty working out here…. Dunno….

  62. ( |o) ====::: says:

    Jesus would that we pray to be confident of our place in The Father’s love

  63. John 20:29 says:

    I’m pretty sure there was a reason that my husband and i never got involved with Calvary Chapel…. Even though i am indebted to Chuck Smith for guiding some dear family members to their redemption, i am pretty sure that we would have been shown the exit door much quicker than some here were. Probably the fire exit! LOL

  64. Nathan Priddis says:

    Personally, I found Missler to be far more to my liking, then a Skip Heizig personality. And I did take his advice to be good Bereans.

    One thing that intrigued me was he seemed to become fearful, at the end. I’m speaking here of the NZ move, and the political tone. This tone sounded identical to most other Conservative leaders. Given his doctrine, I would have expected a more robust eschatology.

  65. bob1 says:

    What’s the “NZ move”?

  66. Nathan Priddis says:

    @Bob1.
    New Zealand. I wasn’t sure what they where trying to do. Maybe he just liked it and wanted to retire.

  67. John 20:29 says:

    FWIW… For some reason years ago we received a koinonia house news letter,, hard copy or electronic i don’t recall, nor how we got on the mailing list… that said, i seem to recall that Nancy M. fell in love with N.Z. and the people involved in their work there and wanted to settle there…. dunno if that was why they immigrated …?….

  68. Nathan Priddis says:

    A NZ retirement could definitely be the logical explanation. The continued ministry activities could be easily explained as a reluctance to be idle in old age.

    As has been noted above, he had non-Orthodox ideas. But his radio comments often seemed Orthodox Evangelicalism regarding perceived American morality, and public policy.

    It confuses me how one could believe in a multiverse, and multi dimensions of time, while considering Conservatism to be relevant. It feels like you should have broader horizons the public policy.

  69. The New Victor says:

    Our pastor mentioned the gospel in the genesis patriarch’s names this last Sunday.

  70. Xenia says:

    But his radio comments often seemed Orthodox <<<

    No.

    "orthodox" to some but definitely not Orthodox.

  71. Nathan Priddis says:

    @70.
    Xenia you are correct. My capitalization error changed the context.

  72. Corby says:

    FWIW I did my own research into the gospel in genealogy thing some years ago (specifically Genesis 5). It doesn’t work in Strong’s because Strong’s is relatively light-weight linguistically. The names are words and compound words, like the word “photograph.” When you look up the words as words, not just as transliterated names, and look at the roots in better language tools, it does work out.

    I’m not trying to defend Missler, that’s just my own research. After doing it I felt confident/comfortable enough to teach it from the pulpit, not just parrot it.

  73. Candance McGee says:

    Michael, and the others commenting on the Gospel genealogy message, I remember Chuck saying, “We owe the Hebrew scholars a huge debt” for actually discovering these Bible codes. He did not take credit for discovering them, disclosing them, or decoding them.
    The words I remember Chuck saying, perhaps more than any other, were, “It’s something to think about “. As far as aliens are concerned, he firmly believed the so-called “aliens” are actually demonic beings that come from inner space, not outer space. Interestingly enough, many believers of the “Visitors from Beyond ” are now joining in that theory.
    I must say I am very disappointed at the attitudes I have seen in some of these posts. I would expect that sort of response from the unbeleiving Facebook crowd. But when Christians decide to criticize a dead man, whose love of God is NOT in question, because you don’t agree with his theology, on a page meant to memorialize him, it’s rather disrespectful. And, I’m sorry, it’s not what ANYONE expects from Christian’s.
    Yep, I said it. Don’t accuse a dead man of plagiarism when he can’t defend himself. I only know he cited dozens of sources when I heard him speak, never taking credit for other people’s work. He had a brilliant mind, and many people can’t follow his ideas. He had many ideas, and they didn’t always go the same direction. He acknowledged that. That’s the way smart people think, and people who can’t follow those thought patterns often get flustered, then angry, and sometimes they react the way I see here.
    It’s ok to disagree with someone. You can disagree with someone and still love them as a brother or sister in Christ. That’s what we’re called to do. How can we love God, who we have never seen, if we can’t love one another, when we can see and hear and touch each other here?

  74. Jim Porter, Sr says:

    Strange about the comment that Brother Chuck missed on the date of the Rapture. I’ve never heard him set a day, and he was dead set against anyone attempting to do so.

    Also, the accusation that he plagiarized material is just hands-on wrong. He was a careful and gifted scholar who attempted to present complex ideas so that ordinary people could understand them. I would challenge the idea that he presented others’ ideas without giving the originator credit, except by unintentional, human errors. Everyone makes mistakes, as these two accusations demonstrations.

  75. Candance McGee says:

    Jim Porter, those were my thoughts exactly. In fact, I remember Chuck saying, loosely quoted, “If someone sets a date for the Rapture, you can rest assured the Rature will NOT happen that day!”
    I also remember him being very careful about giving credit where it belongs, especially to the Jewish scholars who actually uncovered the so-called Bible codes. He NEVER took credit for finding those.

  76. ( |o )====::: says:

    Candance,
    Chuck M was an entertaining guy, full of “thought provoking” ideas, but as one who served him, and engaged him and came away damaged, I’m definitly not going to silently sit by just because he died, a shared destiny each of us will have. Knowing our lives are finite, we should live in such a way that when when questioned we should respond, when something we create or teach is called to question, we should do our best to make it right, and even retract our mistakes.

    I wish Chuck M had done so, but moreover I wish that the idea that a person with a following is somehow above questioning during life or when they pass on is why we continue to have oddball teachings repeated, which lead people away from sound teaching and sound thinking and ultimately distract people from Jesus.

    Again and again this is why that #JesusNeedsNewPR

  77. Candance McGee says:

    I find your response a bit confusing. I agree Chuck was an interesting guy, and he had a lot of different ideas about things that were at odds with some other teachers. But I never found anything he did or said distracting from the main thing: Jesus and the Gospel. In fact, he stressed that often, how the Bible was 66 books written by over 50 different authors over a period of over two thousand years yet it told a consistent story of Jesus Christ being our Lord and Saviour. If anyone let that get out of focus, I imagine it was because there were other things in the way.
    When you say you were involved with Chuck Mitzler, I have to assume that means you worked with him in ministry. I have found that when people work together in the ministry, they often have their vision clouded by religion. I’m not sure why that is, since I have never worked in the field myself, but I imagine it probably has a lot to do with the enemy targeting God’s workers. But I have seen wonderful people brought low by petty issues because others have a difficult time viewing them objectively.
    Obviously I do not know what kind of issues you have with Chuck M, but I fail to understand why you believe your personal problems would effect how others follow, or don’t follow, Jesus Christ. While Chuck had some unique ideas about the Nephelim and the Rapture, he absolutely believed that Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life. And while he found the so-called Bible codes fascinating, he never claimed to have discovered them.
    While it is very important for us to keep our eyes open, to study the scriptures, and be wise to tricksters, Jesus also teaches us to be patient and merciful, forgiving and loving. Long suffering, as the Bible so often says.
    I am also curious about your obvious deep seated resentment of the Calvary Chapel movement. The fact that you are investing so much time in blogging an expose of sorts (after Chuck Smith’s death, interestingly enough) on the “church” that has brought millions to faith in the last 4 decades is very, very odd.
    Why is it everyone treats you so poorly? Why is everyone picking on YOU?
    God chose Chuck Smith for Calvary Chapel, not you. God gave Chuck Mitzler a genius mind, not you. Are you really just resentful that God hasn’t chosen you for these things, so you look for reasons to criticize them? Its really easy to do. Everyone does it. I’m not saying that’s what’s going on, because I don’t know you. I just happen to be a student of human nature, and have been going to Calvary Chapels since 1976, so I have a really difficult time believing that there’s a legitimate reason for your bitterness.
    Please don’t think I’m attacking you, because I’m not. I’m simply throwing out some food for thought. I don’t know you, and you don’t know me, so there’s no risk of me hurting your feelings, or visa versa. Just one Christian sister talking to another Christian brother. I will be praying for you to find peace, since it seems there is bitterness in your heart. Try to find a way to release the anger in a way that does not require airing the church’s dirty laundry for the whole world to see. You will feel so much better when you get rid of the bitter. Believe me. : )

  78. Michael says:

    Candace,

    You have “smug” down to an art form.

  79. ( |o )====::: says:

    Hi Candace,
    I’ll get a chance to re-read your reply and respond point by point sometime this week. I’ve got lots of joyous art & music projects going on.

    Let me simply say that your response is very typical of how we were programmed to think and act when I was at CCCM, and that I have moved on (“free at last, thank God almighty I’m free at last”) to continue in love & service to Jesus and the greater community of believers and not-yet-believers.

    Part of what I see happening, and that I will continue to warn about is wacky stuff like what Missler used to peddle, which is now being adopted by those who are prone to conspiracy malarkey (QAnon)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/01/we-are-q-a-deranged-conspiracy-cult-leaps-from-the-internet-to-the-crowd-at-trumps-maga-tour/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4fd42e3d3a5a

    It was only a matter of time.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  80. Babylon's Dread says:

    Missler had more comments about what he could not reveal for national security reasons than the FBI has redactions from released documents. I found him to be a bright, interesting, indoctrinated, synthesizer of meaningless ideas and nonsense. He was popular with pseudo educated easily wowed people. Reviving this thread will be fun. Missler Redivivus

  81. ( |o )====::: says:

    “…synthesizer of meaningless ideas and nonsense”

    Excellent description!

    #PointToDread

  82. Em says:

    i always found Missler’s delivery style too hard to follow, but i do know that he more than likely did know “stuff” of a national security nature that he could not reveal because if you’re involved in government programs/contracts you’re sworn to secrecy with some very heavy penalties if you talk… many men have gone to their graves knowing things that, if revealed could put their families at risk
    just watching the scene unfolding today ought to make us wary of a government that is too big and too powerful to be the government of a democratic republic such as we’re supposed to have in the U.S.

    now i’ll probably get a visit from those men in black LOL

  83. Michael says:

    I fully concur with BD on this one…

  84. ( |o )====::: says:

    Em,
    You already did… wait, oh, you don’t remember the “flashy thing” do you?

    https://78.media.tumblr.com/5d6e1bb61cbd4a2295857904f0a94a6d/tumblr_pd1zqcoQoE1sh491mo1_400.png

  85. ( |o )====::: says:

    Candace,
    I’ve decided to let your observations and critique of me remain.
    Thanks for pointing out the speck in my eye.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  86. chip says:

    This is in response to Michael
    it seems you are feeling a little inadequate . Chuck was A genius who somehow has made you look into yourself and realize you are coming up short . at what part of the psychosexual stages of development do you have unresolved issues because brother you need to have them resolved . we are searching for God and there should not be any hate Involved in our walk with Jesus christ.

  87. Michael says:

    chip,

    If anyone should feel inadequate it’s an adult named “chip”.

    When you grow up, chip, you’ll understand that disagreeing with someone isn’t a form of hatred or a lapse in “psychosexual” stages of development.

    I usually have to pay for this sort of entertainment…

  88. Christopher Harper says:

    Kingdom power and Glory changed the way I think about eschatology and to be honest the Bible is not complete if you can’t apply the rewards, and any student of the inductive study method can see it in the language it was originally written in. He served God for over 50 years, and was not afraid to speak truth.
    Judgement is coming for nonbelievers and the Bema seat for the body of Christ… it won’t be long before you see that Chuck was given the gift of wisdom and knowledge..
    God bless everyone who seeks Him with a whole heart, and I also warn everyone not to bring a charge against Gods elect..

  89. Michael says:

    “I also warn everyone not to bring a charge against Gods elect..”

    Bite me…

  90. Reuben says:

    Don’t know how I missed this entire post. BD drilled it. The dude was a pseudoscience wing nut. And all the political notoriety was used to his full potential. At the time, he could have said aliens were being held in Area 51 and every Christian would have believed it.

  91. Carla says:

    Chuck missler espoused Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior, period. He loved the Bible, and he loved finding hidden truths within the Bible. He was gifted in so many ways; one was making us think more deeply about what we read in the Bible. He was a brilliant mind and man. He is missed here but Heaven is rejoicing. I will miss him greatly; and thank God for his life and work.

  92. OngHim says:

    Chuck, RIP.
    With love. Thanks for elucidating the Bible for some of us. Thanks for the passionate deliveries. Thanks for being.

  93. Candance McGee says:

    Christopher Harper, Amen..I am puzzled at what some people think is appropriate to say about God’s elect. Oh well.

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